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Now here's a surprising one: Biological technicians mostly marry (~6%) "Driver/sales workers and truck drivers". Didn't expect that. Maybe the driver category is a catch all one?

Maybe because truck drivers are never at home, yet do provide a stable income. Some may see this as a feature, not a bug.

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I'm a software developer. I don't know about the rest of the community but for me someone being in tech is, if not a disqualifier, something very close to it. I have no real reason or justification! I guess maybe I'm just techy enough as is and prefer other qualities in a partner.

You're crazy. My wife is an engineer and I'm a software developer. We make so much money. Want to know a great way to keep a relationship together? Never worry about money ever .

The only reason to marry is money?

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I think you'd see a lot of professions of people who culturally value a homemaker, not anything about the highest paying careers. My guess is that the list you describe would be dominated by the trades, trucking, and small business ownership.

Are there people who don't value a homemaker? You don't value good home-cooked food? A clean house? Clean clothes? Children clothed and fed? Everything else your mother did for you?

I'll throw in an anecdote: I didn't know stay-at-home parents were a thing until embarrassingly late. Like mid- to late-teens. Both my parents worked, all _their_ parents worked, and all my friends parents worked. The only exposure I had to the concept of homemakers was very tangentially on tv, where I assumed the mothers were home because they took the day off. The general attitude of everyone involved in my life was that anyone who stayed at home after the children were old enough to attend school was lazy and mooching off their spouse. Not that that is true, but to directly answer your question: yes, there are people who don't value homemakers.

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Ok, I can see the lopsided lawyers marrying lawyers, but how is it that software developers are so lopsidedly marrying other software developers when something like 90% of them are male? I guess pretty much every female software developer marries a male software developer which works out to the 12% number? Makes me sorta want to see a breakdown by sex. aka "male software developer has a 6% chance of marrying a softwa…

It may also be because only software developers call themselves that. If you look up computer programmers or analysts suddenly it's not that lopsided (they are not even the first group).

What is the distinction between Computer programmers and Software developers?

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Why are chief executives and legislators grouped together as one profession?

They used to be separate occupation codes, but they were merged in 2005 (https://usa.ipums.org/usa/volii/c2ssoccup.shtml). Perhaps because there weren't enough legislators to justify getting their own category, so they got lumped in with the closest other profession?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd add that when you're in your 30s or 40s, you're simply too late. The good men are already taken. There may still be plenty of men in the same age group, single and good earners, but almost by definition they won't meet the highest of standards. Because if they did, they wouldn't be single.

So your definition for good men are only people who have never had a break up in their 30s/40s because there are plenty of people who have?

No, not at all. I think from this context you'd understand that "good" means most attractive or most desired within the scope of selecting a partner. It doesn't mean you're a good or bad person in general.

And of course, some attractive ones are returned to the pool. But most are not, so the bigger issue of low supply remains.

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Ok, I can see the lopsided lawyers marrying lawyers, but how is it that software developers are so lopsidedly marrying other software developers when something like 90% of them are male? I guess pretty much every female software developer marries a male software developer which works out to the 12% number? Makes me sorta want to see a breakdown by sex. aka "male software developer has a 6% chance of marrying a softwa…

This is presumably US data given it is from the "American Community Survey". The 90% male ratio is true globally, however in the US, 25% of software developers are female.

I think that's a good point. Another US bias may be that it seems fairly common to date or marry co-workers, which is not the case everywhere.

In some (maybe most) countries in Europe, most people do not move far away from their initial place of birth. Could be for cultural reasons or just because distances are smaller. As such, by the time they are of a dating age, they already have a rich and extended social life. They don't necessarily require the work place as an important source of meeting a partner. In a way, this affords the luxury of keeping work and social separate.

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Ok, I can see the lopsided lawyers marrying lawyers, but how is it that software developers are so lopsidedly marrying other software developers when something like 90% of them are male? I guess pretty much every female software developer marries a male software developer which works out to the 12% number? Makes me sorta want to see a breakdown by sex. aka "male software developer has a 6% chance of marrying a softwa…

US software developers are 19.4% female. Also, a same profession couple counts twice, so only roughly 1/3 off the female population is required to marry 6% of the female population and get to an aggregate of 12%. Same sex couples complicate this math, but I think the overall proportions would hold true.

If you want a REALLY crazy number, look at physicians marrying physicians, it’s like 45%

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Men generally do not care about the income of their wife, as that's not what they're innately attracted to. Hypergamy is characteristic of women and hence they want to marry up, and won't settle for someone who makes less than them. The latter is a reason for why there are so many educated but unmarried women today in their 30s and 40s.

> women are attracted to money and status! Not men!!! Professionals I know in the 20-35 cohort only want to date other professionals. The ones that don’t want some weird stay at home trophy wife dynamic. There’s nothing provably innate about some men preferring trophy wives. There is a lot of availability due to cultural baggage. The phenomenon that you’re talking about is culturally bound. Anecdotally my wife makes…

A wife who stays at home, manages the household and takes care of children is a "trophy wife" now? What has happened to society? Since when have traditionally feminine contributions been so devalued?

There's nothing wrong with earning money but there's nothing wrong with staying at home either. Some things money just can't buy.

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I’ve read that one reason wealth inequality is worse today is because high-education-high-income individuals want to marry other HEHI individuals whereas in the past this wasn’t the case. If the claim about the past is true, it seems to undermine your point

Men generally do not care about the income of their wife, as that's not what they're innately attracted to. Hypergamy is characteristic of women and hence they want to marry up, and won't settle for someone who makes less than them. The latter is a reason for why there are so many educated but unmarried women today in their 30s and 40s.

“Hypergamy” was not a term I was familiar with so I had to look it up. In doing so, there are some references that indicate that it is not actually innate, but a product of culturally reinforced gender roles [1].

For example, if a woman is in a culture that limits her ability to be successful financially, it would follow that she values the ability to make money in a mate to overcome those societal constraints. The cursory look into the research showed that as gender roles in a society became less rigid, the effect of hypergamy was reduced. If it were truly innate, I would expect there to be no reduction in hypergamy as societal norms change.

[1] Hadfield, Elaine (1995). Men's and Women's Preferences in Marital Partners in the United States, Russia, and Japan (PDF). Journal of Cross-Cultural Psychology Vol. 26 No. 6, Western Washington University. pp. 728–750.

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