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Post by distances »

xwdv wrote: post #216
nostrebored wrote: post #191

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> women are attracted to money and status! Not men!!! Professionals I know in the 20-35 cohort only want to date other professionals. The ones that don’t want some weird stay at home trophy wife dynamic. There’s nothing provably innate about some men preferring trophy wives. There is a lot of availability due to cultural baggage. The phenomenon that you’re talking about is culturally bound. Anecdotally my wife makes…

It’s not a weird dynamic. There is a threshold where if your partner isn’t making some meaningful amount of money relative to you, it’s better for them to just not work at all than spend 40 hours a week toiling away for a pittance of a paycheck. What is there to gain from having a wife work as a cashier when you make 10x as much as her? You either want to be a power couple or just get the best partner you can and off…

Seen from another culture: here in divorce assets are split, but not pensions, and there's no alimony. Stay-at-home divorced spouse could easily face financial hardships later in life.

Stay-at-home is not really a concept here beyond maybe a couple of years with a small child, otherwise it's just unemployment.

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Post by globular-toast »

BatteryMountain wrote: post #333
globular-toast wrote: post #318

This font makes me feel drunk. It LoOkS lIkE tHiS. Is it just me?

jUsT YOu.

This is what it looks like to me: https://i.imgur.com/qd0Y6R0.png

Notice how some letters are taller than others, in particular r, u, s and w. What the hell is going on here I wonder?

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Post by medstrom »

Gareth321 wrote: post #332
medstrom wrote: post #322

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In Sweden highly educated women are marrying down. Just goes to show there's no reason not to break this sort of data analysis up per country and sex, it's not hard to do and will give much more relevant numbers to whomsoever it concerns.

>In Sweden highly educated women are marrying down. It's certainly happening in Sweden, but it's far from common. An almost universal constant in research of this nature is that women highly value a partner who earns similarly or more than them.

Just a nitpick, but it doesn't matter what you value if you can't find it. Else the data would look quite different, e.g. all incels would be married. So what matters is what women find, not what they value.

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Post by siva7 »

dagw wrote: post #338
medstrom wrote: post #322

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In Sweden highly educated women are marrying down. Just goes to show there's no reason not to break this sort of data analysis up per country and sex, it's not hard to do and will give much more relevant numbers to whomsoever it concerns.

Do you have a source for this?

I got one: https://theblog.okcupid.com/how-important-college-is-to-mill...

It's the same in germany. It also comes down that people here don't care that much about degrees but value other things more if they have to choose.

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Post by dagw »

siva7 wrote: post #344
dagw wrote: post #338

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Do you have a source for this?

I got one: https://theblog.okcupid.com/how-important-college-is-to-mill... It's the same in germany. It also comes down that people here don't care that much about degrees but value other things more if they have to choose.

Dating and marrying are two hugely different things. Stereotypically, dating unemployed musicians and artists few years before marrying a white collar worker from your own social background is almost a rite of passage.

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Post by throwaway0a5e »

dmurray wrote: post #106
screye wrote: post #22

Many anecdotal guesses are validated by this data. Doctors and agricultural workers are the obvious standouts, but I see a few more too. Us programmers stick together. Quite a high rate of marrying within the community. Lawyers show a similarly high number. A criticism of the study, is that it does not normalize by how many of these professions are in the general population. So, it appears as though software analysts…

> This study captures P(running into a profession) x P(preference for that profession). I would love to them model P(running into a profession), so that we could get the much juicer preferences of each group for various professions. The page links to a different visualization of the same data, [0] which attempts to control for the prevalence of a job within the population. Maybe it doesn't go far enough for you but t…

> so that we could get the much juicer preferences of each group for various professions.

You'd probably just get a bunch of data that tells you the more female a profession is the more it wants to marry up and the more male a profession is the more it wants to marry toward a profession with a lot of young women.

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Post by KptMarchewa »

klipt wrote: post #280
StillBored wrote: post #179

Ok, I can see the lopsided lawyers marrying lawyers, but how is it that software developers are so lopsidedly marrying other software developers when something like 90% of them are male? I guess pretty much every female software developer marries a male software developer which works out to the 12% number? Makes me sorta want to see a breakdown by sex. aka "male software developer has a 6% chance of marrying a softwa…

> Makes me sorta want to see a breakdown by sex. Feast your eyes on this! https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-who-marries-whom/ For example it says that while lesbian software developers often marry each other, gay male software developers often marry "recreation and fitness workers". Straight male software engineers often marry within the profession, but also marry nurses, teachers and accountants.

I did not expect that for female Software Developers, after male Software Developers, second biggest group would be female Software Developers.

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Post by throwaway0a5e »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #86

I would be interested in seeing which jobs often pair together among divorcing couples.

Pay divided by days at home. The list will be topped by airline pilot, trucker, etc, paired with whatever the most common professions for those professions to marry are.

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Post by mensetmanusman »

oblio wrote: post #292
rsj_hn wrote: post #65

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More and more, I'm beginning to think that a society in which there is widespread use of birth control and in which the majority of women enter the labor force and work full time in an office is not going to be able to maintain replacement level fertility rates. In which case, the future belongs to societies where women don't work and birth control is stigmatized. It could be that there is a reason why the world was…

The solutions are quite simple. Provide free daycare. Provide 1 or ideally 2 year long parental leaves for both parents. Provide a somewhat generous child allowance for up to 3 kids. The hard truth is that it's not as expensive or complicated to encourage people having child but for some reason we are trying to do anything except for the things that actually matter: allowing parents that want to spend all their time…

Isn’t Singapore now offering over 10k as incentive?

If a society is required to pay so much for something that used to come naturally through cultural forces, then it’s probably not sustainable.

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Post by mensetmanusman »

pm90 wrote: post #138
munk-a wrote: post #54

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Young people get pretty bombarded by divorce horror stories - especially from pop culture. Most divorces don't go to a court and a large number are resolved entirely internally and only seek professional help for the finalization of the agreement... but there are the attention grabbing headlines of someone being left with only the shirt on his back (and like 20 mil in options) on the far side of a really bad divorce.…

There have always been divorce horror stories. The systemic reasons for declining marriage rates are mostly financial. The American middle class has seen declining incomes for the past generation or so, with rising student loan payments, unaffordable housing, expensive childcare etc. You have to be making a lot of income to seriously consider having children.

Whether it is mostly financial is still being debated. Even Norway (which has orders of magnitudes more in savings per capita) has low marriage rates.

Abstractly, marriage was a giant public act of consent due to the consequences of sex. Now, sex is decoupled from marriage, so the institution isn’t needed in secular culture.

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