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My SO and I are both software engineers, so blame me for taking one of the lady devs off the market.

My wife and I are too. Though we had our first child last week. She said earlier in the pregnancy that she would like to keep in the workforce. But as each day passes with the baby it feels more likely she'll decide to be a full-time mom. Either decision is fine in my book :)

Kids need programming too.

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I agree that having money is great - but are you actually saying that the best relationship is one where combined income is maximized? Is there no room in your utility function for mutual growth, sum being larger than the parts, etc?

No, we're also super compatible as well. There's more to it than money. I just think that a lot of couples have problems and disputes that would not exist if they had money to throw at the problem to make it go away. Like a lot of stressful problems in life, marriage or otherwise. To steal a line from comedian Daniel Tosh: "Money doesn't buy happiness. Isn't that what people say? Money doesn't buy happiness? I dunno…

Having been in one of those, and seen some others blow up?

It’s great until someone stops making so much money, or you get kids and some of lifes harder issues (or mental illness) come up and the friction points aren’t something you can just spend your way out of anymore.

Then the money can get used as a weapon to maximize suffering, and yikes.

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IIRC it was the book The Meritocracy Trap that detailed the change from past generations, but I don’t know the numbers or underlying sources off the top of my head

Thanks for bringing up the source; if you do end up finding the data I'd love to see it. It's also fascinating to think about the relationship between social changes like this one and some of the economic/political drivers of inequality (less progressive taxation/inegalitarian investments in education/globalization). I suspect that the rise of tertiary education over the past 40-50 years which has further stratified…

>I suspect that the rise of tertiary education over the past 40-50 years which has further stratified educational attainment along class lines may be a relevant factor.

This was a central point to the aforementioned book. The gist being elites invest in education, skill investment, and long hours that leads to more money that they can use to invest in more education and skill development in their children to repeat the cycle. The irony being that, while education and skill development work to gain material success, the long hours required to stay at the top of the competitive heap also makes the meritocratic winners miserable.

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Ok, I can see the lopsided lawyers marrying lawyers, but how is it that software developers are so lopsidedly marrying other software developers when something like 90% of them are male? I guess pretty much every female software developer marries a male software developer which works out to the 12% number? Makes me sorta want to see a breakdown by sex. aka "male software developer has a 6% chance of marrying a softwa…

If you think lawyers marry lawyers, you should look up physicians!

It's not all that surprising if you think about it. Let's say you go right to college after HS, and take a year off between college and med school (due to the competitiveness this is becoming very common, maybe even more common than direct admits). You'll enter medical school around age 23 and will be there until around age 27. You'll be a resident until at least 30, but maybe as late as 33 or 34 depending on the specialty - family med is only 3 years but some of the more intense surgical residencies can be 5-6 years. Fellowship is optionally another 1-4 years on top of that. With a few notable exceptions, the most lucrative specialties have you not drawing more than a token paycheck until your late 30's, best case.

Combine that 23ish-30ish age range with the fact that many (probably most) residents will work above the ACGME-mandated 80 hours a week for at least the first half of their residency, and I'm honestly shocked it's only ~21% of physicians that marry other physicians. Not to mention the fact that the income bump is substantial.

My fiancé is a physician and we met when she was a resident, and I'd say about 40% of all the residents I met during her residency who were in relationships were in a relationship with another physician.

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Ok, I can see the lopsided lawyers marrying lawyers, but how is it that software developers are so lopsidedly marrying other software developers when something like 90% of them are male? I guess pretty much every female software developer marries a male software developer which works out to the 12% number? Makes me sorta want to see a breakdown by sex. aka "male software developer has a 6% chance of marrying a softwa…

I would assume it’s partly because software devs tend to work longer hours and do less stuff socially outside of work than average. As an adult I’ve only dated people long term I either met through work or online games.

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My wife and I are too. Though we had our first child last week. She said earlier in the pregnancy that she would like to keep in the workforce. But as each day passes with the baby it feels more likely she'll decide to be a full-time mom. Either decision is fine in my book :)

Kids need programming too.

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Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

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Ok, I can see the lopsided lawyers marrying lawyers, but how is it that software developers are so lopsidedly marrying other software developers when something like 90% of them are male? I guess pretty much every female software developer marries a male software developer which works out to the 12% number? Makes me sorta want to see a breakdown by sex. aka "male software developer has a 6% chance of marrying a softwa…

Yeah, I think a relative difference would be more helpful than the absolute number. There are lots of admin people so lots of jobs are likely to end up marrying one.

There's a link on the page to a different chart that does this. A bit less visually clear, but pretty cool to explore as well.

Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

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Ok, I can see the lopsided lawyers marrying lawyers, but how is it that software developers are so lopsidedly marrying other software developers when something like 90% of them are male? I guess pretty much every female software developer marries a male software developer which works out to the 12% number? Makes me sorta want to see a breakdown by sex. aka "male software developer has a 6% chance of marrying a softwa…

It would suggest a lot of software developers are unmarried.

CS programs at most schools in the US keep getting larger and larger, so that doesn't really surprise me if you assume the age distribution of software engineers resembles a pyramid.

The program I went to tripled in size over the course of my time there.

Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

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Ok, I can see the lopsided lawyers marrying lawyers, but how is it that software developers are so lopsidedly marrying other software developers when something like 90% of them are male? I guess pretty much every female software developer marries a male software developer which works out to the 12% number? Makes me sorta want to see a breakdown by sex. aka "male software developer has a 6% chance of marrying a softwa…

My longest relationship so far was with a software developer. She was great.

I think it's just a cool thing to relate too

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