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Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

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post #8

Boy, sure are a lot of professions married to teachers.

The article touches on this: > Some pairings are simply volume. There are a lot of nurses and teachers, so they show up on top of the list often.

Nursing and teaching are extremely portable jobs. When I was a military officer, other than people like me (was married to another Army officer), anyone whose spouse worked tended to be married to nurses and teachers because it was really easy for them to relocate since the licensing tends to be reciprocal everywhere and hospitals and schools are pretty much always hiring and are located everywhere, not just New York and San Francisco or big cities in general.

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post #141
post #66

I'm a software developer. I don't know about the rest of the community but for me someone being in tech is, if not a disqualifier, something very close to it. I have no real reason or justification! I guess maybe I'm just techy enough as is and prefer other qualities in a partner.

You're crazy. My wife is an engineer and I'm a software developer. We make so much money. Want to know a great way to keep a relationship together? Never worry about money ever .

Money helps. Though IME there are intangibles like agreement over how to raise the kids or at least flexibility in how to resolve challenges.

Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

#153
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve read that one reason wealth inequality is worse today is because high-education-high-income individuals want to marry other HEHI individuals whereas in the past this wasn’t the case. If the claim about the past is true, it seems to undermine your point

Why? In the past (pre 1960s/70s/80s) spouses largely didn't meet in college/university level education or at the workplace, or if they did, it wasn't as peers. But my point isn't so much that people meet in college, so much as there isn't really a good way to adjust statistical measurements to account for the popularity of a particular field/job, as was suggested up thread. There are way too many related, interdepend…

Out of curiosity, makes you think they didn’t? I mean, it was prevalent enough to coin a derogatory term for women who attended college for the explicit intent to be a wife [1]. I not sure I agree there isn’t a way to adjust for other variables, but I will concede it doesn’t seem like the data went that far.

[1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRS_Degree

Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

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post #22

Many anecdotal guesses are validated by this data. Doctors and agricultural workers are the obvious standouts, but I see a few more too. Us programmers stick together. Quite a high rate of marrying within the community. Lawyers show a similarly high number. A criticism of the study, is that it does not normalize by how many of these professions are in the general population. So, it appears as though software analysts…

> Us programmers stick together. Quite a high rate of marrying within the community. nobody else would take our schtick ...

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Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

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post #22

Many anecdotal guesses are validated by this data. Doctors and agricultural workers are the obvious standouts, but I see a few more too. Us programmers stick together. Quite a high rate of marrying within the community. Lawyers show a similarly high number. A criticism of the study, is that it does not normalize by how many of these professions are in the general population. So, it appears as though software analysts…

This is us only though. In my country, most programmers end up with psychologists, but because there are so many women psychologists and not a lot of female programmers.

Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

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> you will save on taxes ... if you pair a high earner with a low/no earner

You'll never do worse than when you were single since you can always file seperately.

Maybe there's something I don't understand, but per this table it's slightly worse to be married filing separately than it is to be single at the top brackets: https://www.bankrate.com/taxes/tax-brackets/

edit: changed "much" to "slightly"

Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

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post #117

Looks like elementary teachers are the ones paired with everyone the most, even with themselves. Not sure, looks to me like the data might be off

Might be the horoscope effect, but I found that a lot of people in professions that marry school teachers in this chart, did in fact marry school teachers in my life.

Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

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post #65
post #64

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Yes, I've wondered the same thing. Anti-sexual harassment training, and more broadly the discouraging of socialization between men and women, has also reduced the opportunity for men and women to marry. The flip side of the male executive no longer being able to chase his secretary around a desk to try to pinch her on the butt is another executive not being able to politely court the secretary he is in love with (and…

More and more, I'm beginning to think that a society in which there is widespread use of birth control and in which the majority of women enter the labor force and work full time in an office is not going to be able to maintain replacement level fertility rates. In which case, the future belongs to societies where women don't work and birth control is stigmatized. It could be that there is a reason why the world was…

The obvious solution is artificial wombs, but that is probably very far in the future. But since you're talking about who the future belongs to, that's who. Until then, probably low population density already-developed countries that have fairly open immigration policies to accept the children of foreign breeders. That has seemed to mostly mean the US for the past few centuries, but places like Canada and Australia could easily employ similar strategies.

Even short of artificial wombs, there is a lot that can be done to help with this. The real issue isn't that women don't want to have kids at all, ever. It's that if they enter the labor force and work full time, usually it gets put off, often until it's not exactly too late, but at least too late to have as many children as you might have if you'd started earlier, bringing down the national birth rate because too many would-be mothers have aged out. There could easily be medical solutions to that focused on making pregnancy more viable in late middle-aged women. Better prenatal care, cheaper treatments for infertility. Even non-medically, it could just be more flexible working arrangements like you mentioned, work from home, better and cheaper daycare, more generous universal leave policies that don't single out parents, possibly something like sabbaticals that universities do but for commercial ventures, too. Mandatory paid gap years for people in their 30s even if they don't have children. A country that pulls that off could keep the economic advantage of having a larger workforce talent pool to draw from without sacrificing internal population growth.

Obviously, private employers can't bear that burden and it would need to be subsidized by the government, but if you really believe there would be significant national strategic advantages to doing this, then it should be subsidized by the government.

Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

#159
post #53

When I was at university, Engineering and Psychology used to have parties together. But that might also have been because Engineering was 80% men and Psychology 80% women.

I do wonder if an unspoken part of the drive (even if a small part) to get more women in tech is to get more male engineers coupled up.

There are tons of single males in STEM making buckets of money, spending very little, and retiring early. Not only does that mean the profession loses a ton of people before they become senior and have time to train up the next generation, but it reduces supply of engineers and forces employers to keep salaries high.

Re: Which jobs most often pair together among married couples

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I’m a big believer in the engineer (logical) and helping professions (emotional). match. If you look at the category of ‘software developers’ and add up all the helping professions like teachers and nurses and others it is the #1 pairing. This software engineer has been married to his teacher wife for 29 years and going strong …
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