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The ‘Dune’ Screenplay Was Written in Movie Master on MS-DOS

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Re: The ‘Dune’ Screenplay Was Written in Movie Master on MS-DOS

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On the one hand, as a technologist, this pisses me off because we've advanced so far in the field of word processing. Autocorrect, holding more than 40 pages in memory, cut/paste, etc. Why does this Luddite persist in the old ways?!?!?! But as a writer who knows the pains of distraction... maybe he's on to something?

> Autocorrect

That's probably the first thing a lifelong professional screenwriter would turn off.

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Just for fun, I have installed "Joe's Own Editor" by running "yum install joe" from Oracle's EPEL mirror. Then I ran "joe /etc/passwd" (after exiting root) then pressed ^K-h, and Wordstar's help menu appeared. Wordstar and the vi editor share evolution on serial terminals of the 70s (vi specifically on the Lear-Siegler ADM-3A). They were designed for a minimal number of keys, and thus keeping the hands on the home ro…

I use JOE as my daily driver. I grew up on Borland Turbo C, so it was an easy transition for me when I picked up Linux circa 2000. JOE ships with several keybinding variants as well. E.g. `jstar` launches JOE with more WordStar-like bindings.

I'm in a similar boat. I used a lot of Turbo Pascal and EDIT.COM/QBASIC.EXE (which has some similar keybindings). Joe was the natural editor to use when I started with Slackware back in the early 90s. It's really a pleasure to keep using 30 year old muscle memory.

Re: The ‘Dune’ Screenplay Was Written in Movie Master on MS-DOS

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I often wonder this about old tech. What attracts some people to keep using it? Is it the comfort or familiarity or is it minimalism? I sometimes want to feel the experience of my Pentium 1 PC with that rubberdome keyboard and ball mouse. But I know it was a frustrating experience. The mouse didn't work exactly, we had to alt+ctrl+delete every 20-30 minutes. They keyboard felt like jello. The CRT monitor gave us head…

Just for fun, I have installed "Joe's Own Editor" by running "yum install joe" from Oracle's EPEL mirror. Then I ran "joe /etc/passwd" (after exiting root) then pressed ^K-h, and Wordstar's help menu appeared. Wordstar and the vi editor share evolution on serial terminals of the 70s (vi specifically on the Lear-Siegler ADM-3A). They were designed for a minimal number of keys, and thus keeping the hands on the home ro…

I still use the muscle memory gained using Turbo Pascal 3 at 15 in 1986 in VSCode at 50 in 2021 as it maps _similar_ shortcuts using ^K-...

Re: The ‘Dune’ Screenplay Was Written in Movie Master on MS-DOS

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This is why I like my Kindle so much (and other e-readers are the same presumably). It does one thing very well, and not much else. I could read the same book on my phone but it's always popping up alerts and buzzing and so forth, breaking my attention.

Linux console gives me the same feeling. It's partly the font, partly the focus (no interruptions), partly the lack of latency. OSX + iTerm2 is so damn laggy vs. Linux even on worse hardware. It just sux when you have to, you know, input Chinese or open a PDF. Gotta say though, Dune was a disappointment to me, having grown up with Dune 2 on MSDOS. The old Dune had, you know, deeper characters. There's nothing like ea…

> It just sux when you have to, you know, input Chinese or open a PDF.

Don't know about PDFs, but for Chinese IBus works just fine with XTerm.

Re: The ‘Dune’ Screenplay Was Written in Movie Master on MS-DOS

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On the one hand, as a technologist, this pisses me off because we've advanced so far in the field of word processing. Autocorrect, holding more than 40 pages in memory, cut/paste, etc. Why does this Luddite persist in the old ways?!?!?! But as a writer who knows the pains of distraction... maybe he's on to something?

I don't view autocorrect as an advancement to be honest. It causes more issues than it solves IMO. On a phone it's ok to have it because typos are so frequent but on a PC I'd never use it.

I use a combination of autocorrect and dictation on my Mac. My fingers aren't as accurate as they could be and I can't remember spelling to save my life. It's made writing easier because I don't need to worry about that.

Re: The ‘Dune’ Screenplay Was Written in Movie Master on MS-DOS

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The cinematography is amazing. I didn't know gray, brown and bland had so many shades

It' you're a huge fan of light brown, this is the movie for you.

It's almost like it's set in a desert.

Re: The ‘Dune’ Screenplay Was Written in Movie Master on MS-DOS

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This is why I like my Kindle so much (and other e-readers are the same presumably). It does one thing very well, and not much else. I could read the same book on my phone but it's always popping up alerts and buzzing and so forth, breaking my attention.

Linux console gives me the same feeling. It's partly the font, partly the focus (no interruptions), partly the lack of latency. OSX + iTerm2 is so damn laggy vs. Linux even on worse hardware. It just sux when you have to, you know, input Chinese or open a PDF. Gotta say though, Dune was a disappointment to me, having grown up with Dune 2 on MSDOS. The old Dune had, you know, deeper characters. There's nothing like ea…

> OSX + iTerm2 is so damn laggy vs. Linux even on worse hardware

This is one of those things you notice in a jarring way as a Linux user coming to other platforms, but people kinda look at you sideways and don't believe you when you tell them.

What I tend to notice, especially as someone who prefers to use a full screen terminal tiled with tmux, is (1) poor availability of Quake-style dropdown terminals on macOS and Windows and (2) extremely slow rendering on most terminal emulators for those platforms. On the other hand, I think I've heard some Mac users say they detect some input lag on Linux terminals.

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