Isn’t this what the ACLU is for? Wouldn’t they take a case like this on pro-Bono?
FBI raids researcher who discovered private patient data on public server (2016)
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What are you talking about civil and military police in "continental Europe"? You just outlined it yourself, take away the military's own police and you have, in your words, 1. a police which polices regular peope and 2. sometimes a gendermerie which is sometimes nominally a part of the army You also go on to give several examples of this system being used in continental Europe. You could've added in Spain and Ital…
If you don’t understand the implications of the word “nominally”, here, then you really don’t understand anything about the gendarmerie. To compare it with the American policing model is beyond ludicrous. This is how an armed, barricaded suspect is handled in France. Watch until the end, with captions. https://youtu.be/0Bx5PRqYAig
American police would definitely have killed that dog.
Re: FBI raids researcher who discovered private patient data on public server (2016)
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What are you talking about civil and military police in "continental Europe"? You just outlined it yourself, take away the military's own police and you have, in your words, 1. a police which polices regular peope and 2. sometimes a gendermerie which is sometimes nominally a part of the army You also go on to give several examples of this system being used in continental Europe. You could've added in Spain and Ital…
If you don’t understand the implications of the word “nominally”, here, then you really don’t understand anything about the gendarmerie. To compare it with the American policing model is beyond ludicrous. This is how an armed, barricaded suspect is handled in France. Watch until the end, with captions. https://youtu.be/0Bx5PRqYAig
TL;DR a police officer from higher ground shot an armed, suicidal person in the leg so that he could not commit suicide and/or hurt his family members. Very well handled, my respect from NL. I cannot imagine this happening in USA, btw.
Re: FBI raids researcher who discovered private patient data on public server (2016)
#74Yeah, no. There's nothing measured in the approach taken by the FBI. Data on a server is not lethal, the FBI's response was. And while sad, I'm not surprised. I spent time at Microsoft and once in downtown Seattle I saw a kid, maybe 9 or 10, kicking a can along on the sidewalk. Police car sees this, siren on, jumps out the car screaming like a banshee at the poor kid to stop. I've travelled. Like, 34 countries, and I…
> Isn't their slogan serve and protect or something?
It is their slogan, which has the same value of a McDonalds or Coke "healthy food" marketing campaign.
I think there actually was some kind of ruling in the US where it was ruled that the police in there do not have to serve or protect their citizens. [1]
[1] https://mises.org/power-market/police-have-no-duty-protect-y...
Re: FBI raids researcher who discovered private patient data on public server (2016)
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
You clearly have no understanding of how the police work in European countries!
If you don't know that there are paramilitary police forces in Europe then you may apprise yourself of the information here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paramilitary_organizat...
Just linking to Wikipedia doesn't help your argument.
For The Netherlands, this includes two: KMar (who also secure airport like Schiphol) and DSI. It does not include for example regional AT (arrestatieteam, the equiv of a SWAT team).
Every time a Dutch police officer uses their gun on the field (so exercise is excluded), there's an internal investigation, by default. If that'd happen in USA, you'd have a huge dept. of internal affairs, lol.
Re: FBI raids researcher who discovered private patient data on public server (2016)
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you don’t understand the implications of the word “nominally”, here, then you really don’t understand anything about the gendarmerie. To compare it with the American policing model is beyond ludicrous. This is how an armed, barricaded suspect is handled in France. Watch until the end, with captions. https://youtu.be/0Bx5PRqYAig
TL;DR a police officer from higher ground shot an armed, suicidal person in the leg so that he could not commit suicide and/or hurt his family members. Very well handled, my respect from NL. I cannot imagine this happening in USA, btw.
I feel compelled to add the following:
The Gendarmerie Captain on scene then rushes to the man's mother, takes her in his arms and says "He's okay, he's okay. It was us. He's alive."
Re: FBI raids researcher who discovered private patient data on public server (2016)
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
TL;DR a police officer from higher ground shot an armed, suicidal person in the leg so that he could not commit suicide and/or hurt his family members. Very well handled, my respect from NL. I cannot imagine this happening in USA, btw.
I feel compelled to add the following: The Gendarmerie Captain on scene then rushes to the man's mother, takes her in his arms and says "He's okay, he's okay. It was us. He's alive."
You are of course right.
(I unfortunately don't understand much of the French language.)
Re: FBI raids researcher who discovered private patient data on public server (2016)
#78Wacky idea: Stop gifting federal law enforcement services to major campaign donors.
Between Henry Schein and the FBI, we'll likely find a financed politician who enabled this abuse.
Re: FBI raids researcher who discovered private patient data on public server (2016)
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. > The factual bases of the government’s bare bones indictment are a handful of public tweets; a Facebook friend request and message sent to a public Facebook account; the following of a public Twitter account;1 and two emails to an FBI Agent – one with a “?” emoji and another inquiring about the status of a report of a patient privacy violation. > The Defendant made no attempt to mask his identity, and the FBI ne…
Wow so 8 mo in jail, his life gets ruined, and then they drop the larger charges? Sounds like they just wanted to ruin his life.
> Sounds like they just wanted to ruin his life.
When the powerful are embarrassed, ruining lives is only tool in the Federal LEO toolbox.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
This sounds more like the American model. In Germany for example the SEK was formed after SWAT, in response to a terror attack in Munich. Unless there is some serious crime, where guns are involved, the judge won’t send a special unit. Pictures of guns drawn on unarmed people seem to be mostly coming from the US.
I've physically seen many police walking around crowded areas with assault rifles in France and Italy. Germany not as much but they do carry pistols iirc.
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