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Photoshop’s journey to the web

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Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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I would love to see Photoshop in browser as a self-hostable option. I have many tools setup on my LAN and slowly been porting applications over to my local server so I can access all my applications on all my devices.

I’m not sure if you’re only accessing applications through a browser in this case but if you’re using Remote Desktop then why not Gimp or similar FOSS alternative?

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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WebAssembly is coming for games next. Near native performance, players can join with just a link, and no 30% cut that developers have to deal with.

You only deal with the Steam or EGS or Gog cut if you're utilizing their storefront; if you are just hosting the game on your own site, then whether that game is a webassembly package or a desktop application, you don't have to pay some gatekeeper (other than your file host). Same thing with Android, though there is a bit more friction there.

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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I can see Illustrator and Photoshop running on a browser but I doubt we'll see After Effects and Premiere on WASM any time soon. IMO the solution will probably be a combination of browser based UI and cloud based processing. The drawback of this approach is that the server would need to host the project files.

I'd actually like that. Like running a jupyter notebook on a beefy server somewhere. Biggest issue is probably that one still needs to be able to quickly seek in the movie, and watch rendered results in correct resolution without too much delay/downloading. But that delay could in practice end up being shorter if the server is faster at rendering.

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two very underfunded teams there trying to play catch up. Only one of them has an excuse though, the other is literally the most profitable company in the world who is strategically trying to make the web into a subpar platform for their own commercial interests.

I'd like to support Firefox with a donation as I'm sure many others would, but I don't trust Mozilla foundation to allocate it to something that actually matters.

Silence, user. The CEO has more mansions to purchase.

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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Well, I certainly don't like where this is going. Mind you, I suspect I'll not be alone and by the time Adobe transition to a fully web-based subscription lock-in, Affinity et al will be better positioned to entirely fill the void. Sod Adobe.

The lock-in has existed for years, regardless of where the app is running.

Reminder that many people still routinely pirate software and can generally use downloadable software without paying for it. Going to a Web-only version would eliminate the ability of people to pirate it and use it free.

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two very underfunded teams there trying to play catch up. Only one of them has an excuse though, the other is literally the most profitable company in the world who is strategically trying to make the web into a subpar platform for their own commercial interests.

I'd like to support Firefox with a donation as I'm sure many others would, but I don't trust Mozilla foundation to allocate it to something that actually matters.

I think paying for Mozilla VPN would be one way of donating directly to the corp. But that's not a great option unless you were already looking to use Mullvad, and also doesn't signal intent.

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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How does an app like Photoshop protect its IP when algorithms are compiled in webassembly and downloaded to the browser? Or do they hide away the secret sauce behind service calls?

It is not different from compiled machine code.

Biggest difference is probably more people have the means to debug something when it runs in the browser. So technically the same, but it may be more available to look at.

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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Really interesting how the browser is becoming the universal OS. It sort of gives more power/control to Google and reduces it from Apple and Microsoft. Would love to be in the executive meetings where they discuss the implications of this.

If you haven't seen "The Birth And Death of Javascript," you should watch it.

https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death...

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you not like?

The present subscription model and the prospect of where an entirely web-based equivalent will lead. Also, most of the people I know who use Creative Suite have absolutely zero need for any of the recent multi-user / social/web-based functionality. I've never in my twenty-plus years in design needed it and see a decreasing likelihood I would in future either. I appreciate that ages me and marks me as an old fogey, bu…

> The present subscription model and the prospect of where an entirely web-based equivalent will lead.

Aka the fact that, regardless of payment model, the latter is basically un-crackable. Photoshop has maintained some popularity, in spite of the SaaS move, because quite a few people can still get it by "sailing the high seas" (some of them pay for a while and then crack, others just get good ol' "releases"). I'm not so sure that turning off that tap for good will be a net positive for Adobe, but I guess we'll see.

Re: Photoshop’s journey to the web

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A polite reminder that the (quite extraordinary) Photopea[0] is available which replicates most of Photoshop's features in the browser, and is free - with a paid ad-free option. 0. https://www.photopea.com/

...and created by 1 person. My name is Ivan Kutskir and I am the only developer of Photopea. I am 27 years old graduate of the Charles University in Prague. I live in Prague, Czech Republic, but I was born in Ukraine. https://blog.photopea.com/creating-photopea.html [Edit] Reddit AMA (3yrs ago) and HN discussion on it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18397380

If i remember correctly, the whole app runs in the browser without a backend which is pretty amazing.
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