Do they also host the WhatsApp native instance (Android VM)? That'd be great for those using Pinephones who still want easy access to WA. Otherwise the WA bridge would only work if you run a client yourself.
Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram in one place
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Re: Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram in one place
#132I just have a really hard time understanding who this is targeting. If you're on average more willing to sacrifice privacy over ease of use, you're very likely not using Signal or Matrix anyway. So if you're not, but you're using both WhatsApp and Telegram, how is using two apps a big enough problem to set up a third one? Even if we disregard that, I can honestly say that I don't think using four separate apps is a p…
Re: Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram in one place
#133I just have a really hard time understanding who this is targeting. If you're on average more willing to sacrifice privacy over ease of use, you're very likely not using Signal or Matrix anyway. So if you're not, but you're using both WhatsApp and Telegram, how is using two apps a big enough problem to set up a third one? Even if we disregard that, I can honestly say that I don't think using four separate apps is a p…
Re: Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram in one place
#134I already have a way to unify my messaging across different apps. It's called MacOS and cmd+tab. Sometimes on the road I use something called iOS. Sure it's not the same. But is it that different either? All messaging apps have their own native features, some have E2E encryption etc. Not sure if there's a common subset that is enjoyable enough to use that it's worth it. That being said, I do wonder what will be the "…
There is definitely a benefit to having a unified interface. The vast majority of the time I don't want to use each chat apps specific features, I just want to message people. And then sometimes I want to be distraction free and turn off notifications. This is much easier if everything is routed through one app. I'm also on macOS but I've been using Texts[1] for a few months and it has been a great experience. [1] ht…
Re: Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram in one place
#135> It’s also worth noting that end-to-end encryption is necessarily broken as messages to (and from) WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram pass across the bridge(s). The bridge(s) operates in Element’s trusted EMS environment, with no content scanning or datamining, but currently bridged conversations are not stored end-to-end encrypted in Matrix (they will be in the future). As a Signal user, I kind of don't want this to tak…
(Element CEO here). Honestly, it depends on your threat profile. Any kind of bridge has to inevitably MITM your conversations in order to work, and we’ve tried to spell that out in all the product info about Element One. If you want to avoid your E2EE conversations on Signal or WhatsApp being relayed via a service like Element One (because you’re an activist or whatever), then your options are to not bridge at all, o…
Can't you just pass the encrypted message further without decrypting it? Of course, there needs to be the same decryption mechanism on both sides, but it doesn't make it impossible.
Re: Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram in one place
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Data does not _reside_ unencrypted with End to Bridge Encryption : https://docs.mau.fi/bridges/general/end-to-bridge-encryption...
But the bridge is not hosted by me but by them. I need to trust matrix not to MITM me
Re: Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram in one place
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
I want this to take off. I'm tired of having to follow trends because people suddenly think there's a new shinyshinytrendy thing around: IRC to ICQ to MSN to Skype to Google Talk to Facebook Messenger to Whatsapp to Signal. Pidgin is good (I also miss the ancient Trillian, even though it was closed source), but limited to a local device. There are XMPP Transports as well for these (see https://git.eta.st/eta/whatsxmp…
I don’t run my own service for the same reason I don’t build my own car or I don’t do accounting for my company, I don’t have the time to learn how to do it nor doing it.
Re: Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram in one place
#138what about discord? :(
Re: Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram in one place
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
I want this to take off. I'm tired of having to follow trends because people suddenly think there's a new shinyshinytrendy thing around: IRC to ICQ to MSN to Skype to Google Talk to Facebook Messenger to Whatsapp to Signal. Pidgin is good (I also miss the ancient Trillian, even though it was closed source), but limited to a local device. There are XMPP Transports as well for these (see https://git.eta.st/eta/whatsxmp…
I don’t run my own service for the same reason I don’t build my own car or I don’t do accounting for my company, I don’t have the time to learn how to do it nor doing it.
Re: Element One – All of Matrix, WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram in one place
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it wasn't a "service" - it was a program. Unlike this thing. The main difference between this and Pidgin seems to be that you pay a monthly fee for someone to man-in-the-middle all your communications.
> you pay a monthly fee for someone to man-in-the-middle all your communications. All Matrix homeservers and bridges are open source. I self host some of them myself. Have been doing that long before Element One was a thing.