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Wait until you see the retina mining camps they set up in China.
Or... What if you had an AI randomly generate unique irises, you then print them on adhesive paper, and paste the cut-outs on the eyes of one of those robo-faces? Unlimited money!
Worldcoin issues tokens to people for scanning their retinas. Their magical orb device sends a biometric hash to their network. Here's my take on it: You can possibly replace their biometric device with a random hash generator. * If it works, it means the currency is not fairly distributed, but anyone sending valid hashes to their network is issued tokens, irrespective of whether the eyeballs described by those hashe…
I could be wrong, but isn't this because distribution of 'free' worldcoin is centralized? Meaning you can create identities on the network that may or may not be tied to a real person's eyeballs, but that identity only gets free Worldcoin if scanned by lets say an Approved™ Orb scanner operated by an Approved™ Orb operator, who is (presumably) verifying that the orb is scanning real humans only.
This is basically Yet Another Shitcoin With Airdrop, but with some effort to try and control 1 human adopter = 1 free coin in the airdrop.
Regardless, that doesn't imply that the network is centralized / controlled, just the distribution of the initial 8 billion worldcoins is (philosophically, you might say that the centralization of the initial distribution of coins means that the network is effectively not decentralized, but presumably the network is running similar code as any other blockchain).
Snowden is assuming that Worldcoin is saving hashes of eyeballs. That is not what Worldcoin is doing. Zero Knowledge proofs allow the system to prove that an eyeball exists without actually tying the biometric hash directly to an ID. From the article: "We use the open-source Semaphore[19] zero-knowledge proof system to transfer the uniqueness of IrisHashes to the uniqueness of user accounts, without linking them." No…
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Not necessarily. Maybe the scanners have a key that only it's creators can derive from some master key. The hash could come signed and all the public verification has to do is match against a public key. You don't need a database of hashes and you don't need a centralized db of source scans. Each scan hash could even chain with a previous scan hash and you can limit the number of times a key is good for, hence limiti…
Which, as always, raises the question of why a blockchain is necessary. If the creators' master key can be trusted with the power to decide who gets new coins, why don't the creators just store everyone's account balance in a database, and get rid of the enormous performance and energy costs of a distributed ledger?
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At some point one needs to assume it is no longer a matter of ignorance, but instead one of malice. Not sure if this is near that point. Perhaps this guy is simply a fluff bunny who has never seen any evil in this world.
>Perhaps this guy is simply a fluff bunny who has never seen any evil in this world. Having met Altman, "fluffy bunny" is not a too far off assessment.
Snowden is assuming that Worldcoin is saving hashes of eyeballs. That is not what Worldcoin is doing. Zero Knowledge proofs allow the system to prove that an eyeball exists without actually tying the biometric hash directly to an ID. From the article: "We use the open-source Semaphore[19] zero-knowledge proof system to transfer the uniqueness of IrisHashes to the uniqueness of user accounts, without linking them." No…
See this page: https://worldcoin.org/privacy-during-field-testing
We collect the following data through the Orb after the user gives us their consent: Images of users’ body, face, and eyes, including users’ irises (visible, near infrared and far infrared spectrum) Three-dimensional mapping of users’ body and face
If their system were hacked or misused by authoritarian governments, the damage would be huge. And they're basically telling the world "trust us, we'll figure it out" without proving they can do it.
“A new, collectively owned global currency that will be distributed fairly to as many people as possible.” Let’s ignore the fuzzy utopia talk and pretend that this is just a creepy plot to get a hash of every single person’s eyeballs. What’s Sam’s next move? What do you do when you have the hash of everyone’s eyes?
The same thing you do with everyone's Amazon purchase habits, porn watching habits, and their social media behaviour: sell it!
The only real question is to what end, and to be honest one need only look at the dystopia the CCP are creating with their survielence model in Xianjing to see how pernicious this all is when it's in the wrong hands.
You have entities hell bent on creating some sort of minority report type prediction system, though to be honest I think it's more like Psycho Pass at this point: one where their is a clear divide between classes of people and their obedience to the system, which I guess in this case would be 'the Orb.'
In psycho pass it's a sort of Hivemind of the most brilliant to the most violent members of society to try and predict any and all possible outcomes.
Silicon Valley tropes have bled into real life for far too long, be it wokeness, to the fomenting of discord via social media as a business model to sway elections (something intelligence agencies and political parties have clearly made use of) or create discord in Society and to be honest it's exactly why SV's influence has to be curbed. The honest answer to what they will do with the data is: we can't possibly know, and that's why it shouldn't be done.
Auroracoin was trying to achieve a UBI drop in Iceland as a response to the calamity from the 2008 financial crisis, with noble goals but failed in 2014, and while I think it is something that I think should warrant more focus from developers and VC money it's hard to envision how they completely bypassed how Microsoft's ION [1] has been working on ID on the Bitcoin blockchain for years they could have built on top of.
I'd normally lambast anything MS has done, but it's open source and operates over the most secure network, why are we allowing Altman and his YC/SV cronies to hi-jack the narrative that collectively those of us in this space have been working on trying to address this in a trust-less manner for nearly a decade?!
0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auroracoin
1: https://topbitcoinbuyer.com/2021/03/26/microsoft-launches-id...