My interview with Steven Levy re. leaking of my Facebook Goodbye post
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Re: My interview with Steven Levy re. leaking of my Facebook Goodbye post
#2As cited in this article, Frances Haugen is arguing against allowing Facebook to use end-to-end encryption because she suggests Facebook should have more surveillance of private communications: https://twitter.com/AlecMuffett/status/1452309133928054799?s...
A lot of people jumped to the defense of the Facebook leaker because the media so successfully framed it as a “whistleblower” situation, but that’s not really what’s happening here. She’s very much an activist, and some of her suggestions really do not align with what the tech community wants at all.
Any time someone goes in front of the government and insists on less encryption and more government control of tech companies, we should be worried and proceed with extreme caution. No matter how much you dislike Facebook, this situation is no exception.
Re: My interview with Steven Levy re. leaking of my Facebook Goodbye post
#3"feel weird, in a “Frances Haugen may have messed-up my legacy” kind of way."
Should have blown the whistle then. All engineers in tech have a certain level of ethical responsibility they have completely failed to maintain. An internal good bye letter you hope never gets leaked because it might ruin your chances with other companies later in life sounds like quite the opposite of that ethical responsibility.
Fuck your career, be a better human. Every FB employee knows what they are signing up for.
Re: My interview with Steven Levy re. leaking of my Facebook Goodbye post
#4"feel weird, in a “Frances Haugen may have messed-up my legacy” kind of way." Should have blown the whistle then. All engineers in tech have a certain level of ethical responsibility they have completely failed to maintain. An internal good bye letter you hope never gets leaked because it might ruin your chances with other companies later in life sounds like quite the opposite of that ethical responsibility. Fuck you…
Frankly at this point every technologist should be held accountable. The entire online business community is built around privacy invasion.
Fuck YOUR career 54b4b54; we engineers have enough power to stop this by not opening our laptops tomorrow.
It’s easier to sit online and deflect, project, and carry on like a coward.
Re: My interview with Steven Levy re. leaking of my Facebook Goodbye post
#5As cited in this article, Frances Haugen is arguing against allowing Facebook to use end-to-end encryption because she suggests Facebook should have more surveillance of private communications: https://twitter.com/AlecMuffett/status/1452309133928054799?s... A lot of people jumped to the defense of the Facebook leaker because the media so successfully framed it as a “whistleblower” situation, but that’s not really wha…
HN is a bit schizophrenic on this topic. On one hand, it seems everybody wants more freedom and less surveillance, but they give FB a hard time for not monitoring content better. Hopefully these aren't the same people expressing these contradictory points of view.
I'd be curious to know what both side think the ideal social network should look like.
Re: My interview with Steven Levy re. leaking of my Facebook Goodbye post
#6On the popularity of Haugen: I find it amusing how your government treats a whistleblower who is promoting government control over social media, vs the way your government treats a whistleblower who leaks evidence of government spying and abuse.
The fact that Edward Snowden and Julian Assange are treated the way they are (and the earlier treatment of Manning) gives the US government zero credibility on press freedom, social media legislation or anything remotely related to privacy.
EDIT: Furthermore according to the FBI it's ok for Hillary Clinton to keep government communication explicitly marked classified in her basement server because no harm is intended, whereas others have been prosecuted in the absence of intended harm.
The optics are absolutely terrible on these issues. If I can speak for some of the folks in the rest of the world, we're laughing and shaking our heads.
Re: My interview with Steven Levy re. leaking of my Facebook Goodbye post
#7As cited in this article, Frances Haugen is arguing against allowing Facebook to use end-to-end encryption because she suggests Facebook should have more surveillance of private communications: https://twitter.com/AlecMuffett/status/1452309133928054799?s... A lot of people jumped to the defense of the Facebook leaker because the media so successfully framed it as a “whistleblower” situation, but that’s not really wha…
HN is a bit schizophrenic on this topic. On one hand, it seems everybody wants more freedom and less surveillance, but they give FB a hard time for not monitoring content better. Hopefully these aren't the same people expressing these contradictory points of view. I'd be curious to know what both side think the ideal social network should look like.
> On one hand, it seems everybody wants more freedom and less surveillance, but they give FB a hard time for not monitoring content better.
I don't think these are conflicting views: (1) Less monitoring on private messages (2) More monitoring on public posts
Re: My interview with Steven Levy re. leaking of my Facebook Goodbye post
#8> I do not believe that there are other solutions which would scale. If you can see a viable liberal means to keep people safe other than “the status quo, only moreso” then do please let me know.
Hello Alec, if you are reading this.
This is what it looks like when you choose profit over safety. Facebook chose to enter a market with a business model that depended on "doing things at scale" but it, in fact, could not do safety at scale. You and Facebook knew that you could not do safety at scale. The business model is flawed. Facebook should not be in that market. But profit dictates that Facebook stay.
Re: My interview with Steven Levy re. leaking of my Facebook Goodbye post
#9On the popularity of Haugen: I find it amusing how your government treats a whistleblower who is promoting government control over social media, vs the way your government treats a whistleblower who leaks evidence of government spying and abuse. The fact that Edward Snowden and Julian Assange are treated the way they are (and the earlier treatment of Manning) gives the US government zero credibility on press freedom,…
> I find it amusing how your government treats a whistleblower who is promoting government control over social media, vs the way your government treats a whistleblower who leaks evidence of government spying and abuse.
That is because e.g. Snowden is actually a whistleblower, warning the people against the powers that be, and Haugen is an activist pushing for an agenda which aligns with what the powers that be want, making her a useful political pawn.
Re: My interview with Steven Levy re. leaking of my Facebook Goodbye post
#10I wonder what the mood is like at Facebook at the moment. It must be pretty demoralising to see revelations about your company's behaviour in the press, especially if you believe in the mission. Yet I wonder if there's a different narrative that employees internally are believing in.
I've been freelance my entire life and never worked for a large corp, so I don't know what it's like. But I'd be fascinated to be a fly on the wall in Facebook's offices this month