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Edward Snowden Slams Sam Altman's Worldcoin: 'Don't Catalogue Eyeballs'
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Re: Edward Snowden Slams Sam Altman's Worldcoin: 'Don't Catalogue Eyeballs'
#12Admins, please ban sharmin123, shahin841, hackerlist.co, and look at other shahin* user accounts https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=sharmin123
You need to email them, they do not scan for these types of comments.
Re: Edward Snowden Slams Sam Altman's Worldcoin: 'Don't Catalogue Eyeballs'
#13Ever since the movie "Demolition Man", it should be obvious why biometrics are a bad idea. (Yeah I know they also can try to scan for signs of life like blood flow - still, I don't like it). Even without the Demolition Man scenario, an even worse issue is that you can't change your biometrics in case somebody steals them. Fake fingerprints are already easy to do, other things surely can be cloned, too.
Kids or coworkers are not going to make fake fingerprints to mess with me. What they can do is to see password or pin code while I am typing those over my shoulder. Someone on the street also won't be able to see my pin code for unlocking phone if I use fingerprint. Those are scenarios that biometrics are handling really well. Biometrics against sophisticated attackers is not good idea. I don't encounter in my life "…
Yeah, similarly we have crap locks in doors. They are there more to make it somewhat laborious to open to door, hence signal privacy, than make it nigh impossible to break in. That's why we have bank vaults and so on when we really want to deny access.
For convenient security you want just enough complexity a bot wont automatically unlock it, for proper security something that can be even a bit unconvenient as long as it's more secure.
I agree, biometrics should probably be in the "breakable, convenient" category.
Re: Edward Snowden Slams Sam Altman's Worldcoin: 'Don't Catalogue Eyeballs'
#14First OpenAI launches the code laundering tool CoPilot, now Altman wants to scan the world's irises. Could Altman perhaps sit down and fucking program something himself? Show us your code.
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Re: Edward Snowden Slams Sam Altman's Worldcoin: 'Don't Catalogue Eyeballs'
#15Re: Edward Snowden Slams Sam Altman's Worldcoin: 'Don't Catalogue Eyeballs'
#16Ever since the movie "Demolition Man", it should be obvious why biometrics are a bad idea. (Yeah I know they also can try to scan for signs of life like blood flow - still, I don't like it). Even without the Demolition Man scenario, an even worse issue is that you can't change your biometrics in case somebody steals them. Fake fingerprints are already easy to do, other things surely can be cloned, too.
Kids or coworkers are not going to make fake fingerprints to mess with me. What they can do is to see password or pin code while I am typing those over my shoulder. Someone on the street also won't be able to see my pin code for unlocking phone if I use fingerprint. Those are scenarios that biometrics are handling really well. Biometrics against sophisticated attackers is not good idea. I don't encounter in my life "…
> Kids or coworkers are not going to make fake fingerprints to mess with me.
Don't underestimate the lenghts some people will go through for a harmless prank. But you are probably correct a modern phone's fingperprint-reader is probably not fooled by an etched stick of gummibear.
Incidentally - I always wanted to have a device that you could stick your finger into, that would use a, let's say, laser to etch different fingerprints onto the tip of my finger.
Re: Edward Snowden Slams Sam Altman's Worldcoin: 'Don't Catalogue Eyeballs'
#17RIP Sam Altman's reputation
Re: Edward Snowden Slams Sam Altman's Worldcoin: 'Don't Catalogue Eyeballs'
#18Worldcoin issues tokens to people for scanning their retinas. Their magical orb device sends a biometric hash to their network. Here's my take on it: You can possibly replace their biometric device with a random hash generator. * If it works, it means the currency is not fairly distributed, but anyone sending valid hashes to their network is issued tokens, irrespective of whether the eyeballs described by those hashe…
The first half of your argument makes sense.
Justifying the use of proof-of-work appears to be a fallacy of relevance though
Re: Edward Snowden Slams Sam Altman's Worldcoin: 'Don't Catalogue Eyeballs'
#19Worldcoin issues tokens to people for scanning their retinas. Their magical orb device sends a biometric hash to their network. Here's my take on it: You can possibly replace their biometric device with a random hash generator. * If it works, it means the currency is not fairly distributed, but anyone sending valid hashes to their network is issued tokens, irrespective of whether the eyeballs described by those hashe…
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Re: Edward Snowden Slams Sam Altman's Worldcoin: 'Don't Catalogue Eyeballs'
#20Ever since the movie "Demolition Man", it should be obvious why biometrics are a bad idea. (Yeah I know they also can try to scan for signs of life like blood flow - still, I don't like it). Even without the Demolition Man scenario, an even worse issue is that you can't change your biometrics in case somebody steals them. Fake fingerprints are already easy to do, other things surely can be cloned, too.
Kids or coworkers are not going to make fake fingerprints to mess with me. What they can do is to see password or pin code while I am typing those over my shoulder. Someone on the street also won't be able to see my pin code for unlocking phone if I use fingerprint. Those are scenarios that biometrics are handling really well. Biometrics against sophisticated attackers is not good idea. I don't encounter in my life "…
Somebody stealing your phone will likely be able to retrieve fingerprints from it?
Maybe it is too much for a random thief. But what if there are "factories" for treating stolen phones, and random thieves just sell the phones to those factories? (Not saying that happens, but it seems likely to me that such things will eventually exist - down to trying to retrieve bank codes from stolen computers and phones and trying to exploit them).