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What new cars (or types of new cars) are the most privacy-friendly? No data connections, no logging, as hackable as possible
Probably nothing that can be sold in the EU or North America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECall
Maybe then it's become a game of gutting the modem (sadly).
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They can - but as evidence shows do not always, or even often. It will now more often of course as the information gets out.
> It will now more often of course as the information gets out. AGAIN you are arguing from a conspiracy as a prior. There is no "information" to "get out". The car stores telemetry and sensor input. We always knew that. This is a story about someone figuring out how to recover it.
Rather no one dumps everything in a deposition. If there is something that could help opposing counsel, then it will be avoided as best as possible. This is basic law 101.
Just because you, and some others, know exactly what is there (presumably) doesn’t mean everyone else does! And I’ve seen first hand how opposing counsels can screw themselves over by not spending time and effort to figure out how the technology actually works, and many times plaintiffs don’t either, so they just don’t know where to poke.
And that is avoiding that knowledge of a previously hidden area (such as if something is recoverable that seems like it should not be because they have the wrong assumptions or don’t know how it actually works internally!) can radically change the actual strategy and applicable law.
You seem to keep asserting that everyone already knows everything and all optimal strategies are already known because of this, which does not apply to the real world at all.
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What if it can be proven they were never serious in their claims about the feasability of self-driving. What if it was all a scam to milk investment money, and yours as well. Would it be fraud then? Point being you were given a disclaimer that was accepted in good faith about receiving a product/service in a reasonable time frame. If that time frame turned out to be 100 years, I'd say you were damaged.
> What if it can be proven they were never serious in their claims about the feasability of self-driving. What if it was all a scam to milk investment money, and yours as well. Would it be fraud then? Yes, it would. Because then I would want a refund. But that would be asserting facts not in evidence, and I refer to my point upthread about arguing from a conspiracy as a prior.
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That report compares the total lifetime emissions of a Tesla with an ICE, as far as I can tell. Also, I don't see any discussion of the cost of mining, smelting, etc the chassis and engine parts, it seems that those are acquired and not included in the production costs. Furthermore, it assumes that the car is locally built, it doesn't seem to include the cost of transporting the car and/or parts long distance. Finall…
>mining, smelting, etc the chassis Perhaps chassis costs (meaning carbon costs of making the chassis) are roughly comparable between ICE and EVs, so I suppose there was no need to focus on this in the report. >and engine parts, it seems that those are acquired Tesla motors are wound and made from scratch from raw materials on site. This data point would not be in favor of ICE cars, for the reasons you mention. Batter…
In the EU at least, there has been constant pressure not to do this on environmental grounds, and I believe this has been misguided (perhaps EVs will indeed change that).
> SpaceX and Tesla are legitimately doing great as far as I can see. Which good news were you talking about?
They are doing good, but they constantly promise far more - Tesla Cybertruck, Tesla Semi, "FSD" (Elon promised in ~2018 that "very soon" you would be able to let your Tesla work as a robotaxi when you don't need it and recoup its cost within a year from all the money it would make!), solar tiles.
SpaceX has similarly claimed fantastic schedules that they are far from, fantastic price cuts for orbital flight (they claim Spaceship will be at least 50x times cheaper than the cheapest option so far), that they will offer commercial earth-to-earth space flights in the near future, and that they will maintain a fleet of 40k satellites, larger than all the current number of satellites combined.
SpaceX also has a history of lying to the FAA and EPA about their launch schedules and environmental risks (not talking about CO2 here, but rocket debris in protected swamp lands).
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We know for a fact Tesla is doing something nefarious, i.e. the self driving scam. But I suppose Tesla isn't hiding anything nefarious. Most of their malfeasance is plain to see.
As someone who actually purchased FSD and has yet to receive it, it's not a scam. It's just a really hard problem that I think Tesla will solve before anyone else.
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If someone promises you’ll have it any day now, so you pay them a lot of money, but they delay it years and years - and you note it’s a really hard problem - at what point is it fraud? Most legal precedent I’ve seen says a lot less time than they’ve already delayed it, frankly.
> at what point is it fraud? It's fraud when someone is harmed. People like you who didn't buy the product and don't want it don't have standing here. People like me, who did, do. And almost without exception, we're all lined up to get the beta release. Offer me a $10k refund today in exchange for never getting access to FSD releases, and I'd turn it down. "People willfully paying for something I don't like" isn't fr…
2. Tesla is currently advertising their cars as being capable of driving themselves. They have videos of people driving with their hands off the wheel. They have failed to implement safety features that make drivers pay attention while using driver assists. People have died because of this.
3. There are no FSD owners because FSD does not exists.
4. You are a victim too. You will realize it someday.
5. I sure as hell have standing. Have you seen the video of the current FSD version? It just plain does not work and is being released on public roads for "testing" by untrained drivers. Tesla is putting my life in danger, and shame on you for going along with it.
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If someone promises you’ll have it any day now, so you pay them a lot of money, but they delay it years and years - and you note it’s a really hard problem - at what point is it fraud? Most legal precedent I’ve seen says a lot less time than they’ve already delayed it, frankly.
There are plenty of videos on Youtube showing the state and rate of progress of self-driving. It's clear it's got a long way to go but is improving quickly. Everyone knows that Elon Musk's twitter is not a reliable indicator of feature release dates.
First part yes, second part no. It has been in development since at least 2015 and still drives straight into walls. Meanwhile Waymo and Cruze are putting down tens of thousands of miles between interventions.
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There are plenty of videos on Youtube showing the state and rate of progress of self-driving. It's clear it's got a long way to go but is improving quickly. Everyone knows that Elon Musk's twitter is not a reliable indicator of feature release dates.
>It's clear it's got a long way to go but is improving quickly. First part yes, second part no. It has been in development since at least 2015 and still drives straight into walls. Meanwhile Waymo and Cruze are putting down tens of thousands of miles between interventions.