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Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by FireBeyond »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #97
bkev wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try Turo. There tend to be quite a few Teslas there. https://turo.com/

I'm not sure that I "get" Turo. this is ... Airbnb for cars? In any case, I don't think it would have worked for us, we handed the car back days later, in a different city. Which is fine for Hertz, but probably not for a Turo "host"? It's likely that by the next time we're there, things will be different.

Turo is a huge market for laundering cash.

In my area there are multiple Chrysler 300Cs that are "available" to rent for $600/day.

Except they're not available. They're actively being rented for weeks on end.

Would be a great plan if you were a dealer. Have one of your customers rent your car for $600/day (no legit customer will pay that for a 300C), and you launder cash. Best part is you don't even need to actually rent out your car - they're not going to complain that they didn't get a car, because they never needed it.

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by DarmokJalad1701 »

bogomipz wrote: post #160
aardvark179 wrote: post #40

Hope they disable some of the Tesla Easter eggs. Having the road diagram turn into a rainbow and Don’t Fear The Reaper blast out of the speakers because you hit an on screen button four times is pretty unnerving if you’re familiar with the car and really wouldn’t be what you want having just got off a long flight and driving in a city you don’t know in a car you don’t know.

Is this an actual easter egg? Is there a list somewhere documenting these?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Easter_eggs_in_Tesla_p...

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by FireBeyond »

sakopov wrote: post #164
senectus1 wrote: post #127

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christ, I want a cool electric car more and more. but reading stuff like this all the time is just re-enforcing my decision to leave Tesla off that list of potentials. A car is a tool I use to get my family around from point A to B SAFELY. Its also a fairly significant chunk of debt, and I want it to last a long time and behave EXACTLY the way I expect it to. Every day. Tesla really doesn't fit that bill atm

What does an easter egg in a Tesla has to do with safety or longevity of the vehicle?

You're right, what could an unexpected loud noise or visual disturbance in a car possibly do to reduce safety of a distracted driver?

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by asdf333 »

legolas2412 wrote: post #206
nroets wrote: post #199

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On long trips, there may be one or more Hertz locations near your route. If all of them stock electric cars, Hertz could offer a premium offering where you change cars along the way...

I certainly do not look forward to constant unloading/loading, adjusting seats and mirrors, and pairing bluetooth again every 3 hours.

superchargers are not too bad. 30 mins at a charging station while you grab food and stretch your legs is all it takes.

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by stmfreak »

Waterluvian wrote: post #163

I was very pessimistic about Tesla and confused by their stock price. But I now believe that they indeed are doing it and that we’re finally at the EV revolution. I’m not an early adopter type and the Teslas don’t excite me at all, but I’m really delighted that the market is evolving. I’m delighted that I was wrong.

Tesla’s stock price is confusing if you compare them to a car company. But they are not just a car company. They are also a car manufacturing supply chain, having brought much of their component production in house. They are also an energy company, both generation and storage, but also distribution, like gas stations. Think Exxon, BP, Chevron, ARCO, etc.

They are probably a few other things, but this is the mystery of their valuation.

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by chemmail »

sdhfjg wrote: post #184
Waterluvian wrote: post #163

I was very pessimistic about Tesla and confused by their stock price. But I now believe that they indeed are doing it and that we’re finally at the EV revolution. I’m not an early adopter type and the Teslas don’t excite me at all, but I’m really delighted that the market is evolving. I’m delighted that I was wrong.

Tesla might be "...doing it...", but that doesn't mean the stock price isn't confusing.

Their price is fine if you look at the Apple analog. Not even knows they want a Tesla like not everyone knew they wanted an iPhone. It's not that they even want one, you basically have to have a smartphone nowdays. EVs will be similar in many many respects. And once someone tries one, that is it. There is no going back.

Of coarse there are other brands of smartphones, but not thing comes close to iPhone in terms of the brand, just like Tesla. There will always be metrics other brands can beat Tesla in, but the overall brand and product is unrivaled and will probably be so for the next 10 years. After that though, it's anyone's guess.

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by FireBeyond »

hndamien wrote: post #154
senectus1 wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

christ, I want a cool electric car more and more. but reading stuff like this all the time is just re-enforcing my decision to leave Tesla off that list of potentials. A car is a tool I use to get my family around from point A to B SAFELY. Its also a fairly significant chunk of debt, and I want it to last a long time and behave EXACTLY the way I expect it to. Every day. Tesla really doesn't fit that bill atm

Tesla is the safest car on the road. In fact, the three safest cars on the road.

By metrics that Tesla uses. IIHS, NHTSA, other entities have other thoughts.

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Post by kjksf »

hughes wrote: post #171
pokerhobo wrote: post #157

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The cost of electricity is probably less than $5, plus the time they spend cleaning the car for the next person they can get to 80% charge

The more significant cost to Hertz would be the hours spent charging before the vehicle is back in service

People tend to not rent cars at night.

So the time spent by a Hertz employee is 1 minute to plug and then unplug the car.

And if the car isn't fully charged and someone wants to rent it, they can either wait additional 30 minutes for full charge or get not-fully-charged car immediately and charge it at a later time.

Either way, it's effectively zero time and cost to Hertz.

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by kyruzic »

chemmail wrote: post #226
sdhfjg wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla might be "...doing it...", but that doesn't mean the stock price isn't confusing.

Their price is fine if you look at the Apple analog. Not even knows they want a Tesla like not everyone knew they wanted an iPhone. It's not that they even want one, you basically have to have a smartphone nowdays. EVs will be similar in many many respects. And once someone tries one, that is it. There is no going back. Of coarse there are other brands of smartphones, but not thing comes close to iPhone in terms of t…

Except apple is like louis vutton. Most people can actually afford an iphone or a louis vutton bag.

Most people cannot afford to drop 50k on a tesla.

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