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Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by hughes »

pokerhobo wrote: post #157
oxfeed65261 wrote: post #128

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According to Car and Driver, a Hertz spokesperson said that ‘customers can return the EVs not fully recharged "for now," a difference from the rules for returning gasoline-powered vehicles.’ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a38052601/hertz-buying-100...

The cost of electricity is probably less than $5, plus the time they spend cleaning the car for the next person they can get to 80% charge

The more significant cost to Hertz would be the hours spent charging before the vehicle is back in service

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by hunter2_ »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #97
bkev wrote: post #88

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Try Turo. There tend to be quite a few Teslas there. https://turo.com/

I'm not sure that I "get" Turo. this is ... Airbnb for cars? In any case, I don't think it would have worked for us, we handed the car back days later, in a different city. Which is fine for Hertz, but probably not for a Turo "host"? It's likely that by the next time we're there, things will be different.

Yes, like airbnb. The host delivers and retrieves the vehicle within whatever operating radius they want to offer, so two cities is very unlikely. However, I think there is some kind of variable delivery fee, so as long as you want to pay that and get the owner to agree to set a gigantic radius, it might work.

https://support.turo.com/hc/en-us/articles/203991040-Choosin... says:

> You’re not able to set one location for pickup and a different location for drop off when you book your trip. But once the trip is booked, you can request to change your delivery pickup or drop off location. Once the trip is in progress you can still request to change the drop off location. The new location must be one where the host already offers delivery, or it must be within their custom delivery radius.

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by [deleted] »

cbo100 wrote: post #158
simfree wrote: post #155

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Coasting is way more efficient than regenerative braking slowing your roll, causing you to need to accelerate again. Hence why many non-car electrified rides disable Regen braking in Eco mode when your not accelerating or braking as keeping that mechanical energy & momentum is much more efficient than paying the conversion penalty to turn it back into electricity.

As far as I can tell, from the somewhat minimal GUI Tesla gives you, and the general feeling while driving... You can "coast" with regen on, you just need to balance the accelerator at the point where you aren't adding power, but the car isn't taking power away. You won't see any green or black on the power usage bar. Coming down long mountain roads, it's somewhat easier than coasting in an ICE and having to continua…

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Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by refurb »

pokerhobo wrote: post #157
oxfeed65261 wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to Car and Driver, a Hertz spokesperson said that ‘customers can return the EVs not fully recharged "for now," a difference from the rules for returning gasoline-powered vehicles.’ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a38052601/hertz-buying-100...

The cost of electricity is probably less than $5, plus the time they spend cleaning the car for the next person they can get to 80% charge

Wow! You are very optimistic about this.

I assume you’ll eventually see a $50 “recharge” plus electrical costs marked up 100%.

Or of course, you could just pre-pay and sign up for the $50 program and return it “empty”.

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Post by ComputerGuru »

tincholio wrote: post #76
lrem wrote: post #62

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All cars will creep forward with the first gear on. The thing is, if you're already going faster than 10km/h, they'll decelerate towards that surprisingly quickly.

Not really. On petrol cars, if you let go of the clutch in 1st gear and not pushing on the gas, you'll most likely stall. Diesels often don't do this, and creep instead (all of this assuming you're letting go of the clutch slowly enough, otherwise, you'll stall for sure)

It depends on the condition of the clutch. If it’s a newer clutch or in great shape: definitely not once the gear is fully engaged. I can’t drive my petrol cars in forward or reverse at driveway speeds without riding the clutch a bit to stop from going too fast.

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by toast0 »

cblconfederate wrote: post #43

> Car-rental firm, recently emerged from bankruptcy under new ownership, orders vehicles by the end of 2022 That does sound crazy that they re doing it while they ll be still in pandemic, which bankrupted them in the first place. I guess in the US people can always find a charger. I wonder how many people will rent those cars for the novelty factor, and novelty only works once. And it will be interesting to see what…

Car rental companies (including Hertz) sold a bunch of cars and that combined with increased cleaning and a return to volume means rental car inventory is very tight at some locations... it's no surprise that they're ordering more cars. These particular cars, maybe a little surprising, but they sold a lot during bankruptcy, so they've got to restock.

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Post by Gustomaximus »

leobg wrote: post #103
watt wrote: post #7

In Germany this marked niche is so under-served, there's a whole company (Nextmove) dedicated to rentals of electric cars. They position themselves as "try before you buy" experience, so you can do an extended test over multiple days to see if the car fits you.

There is also Future Rent [1], which allows you to rent electric cars from individual owners. [1] https://www.future.rent/

There must be a business in tying purchase into rental companies in general. Rent car X and get your money back if you buy one in the next 3 months type thing.

Or "like the car you hire, pay X and keep it". There would have to be margin in that as rental companies usually sell cars to dealers quite early in their life and dealers are only going to pay bottom dollar.

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Post by SavantIdiot »

Waterluvian wrote: post #163

I was very pessimistic about Tesla and confused by their stock price. But I now believe that they indeed are doing it and that we’re finally at the EV revolution. I’m not an early adopter type and the Teslas don’t excite me at all, but I’m really delighted that the market is evolving. I’m delighted that I was wrong.

Yeah this is kind of a big deal, like inflection-point big deal. Teslas are still for the well-to-do, but making infrastructure available may encourage even more investment in non-upper-end EVs.

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Post by wolverine876 »

caf wrote: post #169
akmarinov wrote: post #19

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In what sense? They’re quite a bit quicker than ICE cars and regeneration is something you need to get used to, but nothing that’s radically different. With these the big issue would be charging them - people might not know not to go to a gas station. Also wonder how the “full tank” policy will work with EVs where ideally you want to hover around 80% Where they might not be suitable rental cars is the reliability. Th…

Someone found Hertz's updated Terms & Conditions. tl;dr you are expected to return the car with at least 10% charge. TESLA These Electric Vehicle Rental Terms (“Rental Terms”) are between The Hertz Corporation (“Hertz” or “us”) and You and apply to a rental of an electric vehicle (“EV”) from Hertz. An EV is defined as a vehicle that exclusively uses battery power rather than gasoline or diesel fuel. These Electric Ve…

Could you provide a source? What date and locale is this from? etc.

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by SavantIdiot »

reustle wrote: post #135
randyrand wrote: post #122

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Kind of a big annoyance if your hotel does not have chargers though. Especially if you already booked it.

Just checked. At least Booking has a "ev charging station" filter when searching for places to stay.

There is one problem coming: people fighting over chargers. I was in a Target parking lot with two people fighting over who got to the charger first. Fortunately the mall 5 miles away has a Tesla outlet and a dozen underground charging slots.
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