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Rendering on the Apple M1 Max Chip

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Re: Rendering on the Apple M1 Max Chip

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> There’s really no way to understate what a colossal achievement Apple’s M1 processor is; compared with almost every modern x86-64 processor in its class

On the other hand I'm sure there's more than a few chipheads out there who are saying "it's about time", there was a longstanding prediction that the arm architecture would overtake x86.

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> There’s really no way to understate what a colossal achievement Apple’s M1 processor is; compared with almost every modern x86-64 processor in its class On the other hand I'm sure there's more than a few chipheads out there who are saying "it's about time", there was a longstanding prediction that the arm architecture would overtake x86.

It is about time, although it is worth saying that a bunch of the chips here are actually basically ancient due to being released years ago, or being fairly old microarchitectures.

Hat's off to Apple, of course, but Intel were sort of a victim of their own success in that they nearly beat AMD to extinction over the last decade.

I also note that there's no comparison with a properly modern X86 (i.e. an AMD 5000 series). The Apple will still come up on top, most likely, but that Xeon did literally come out in 2012!

Re: Rendering on the Apple M1 Max Chip

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> There’s really no way to understate what a colossal achievement Apple’s M1 processor is; compared with almost every modern x86-64 processor in its class On the other hand I'm sure there's more than a few chipheads out there who are saying "it's about time", there was a longstanding prediction that the arm architecture would overtake x86.

I thought the observation was always that instruction set was not such a big difference in high performance CPUs next to manufacturing technology which was by far the first order effect. It would be expected for a high performance ARM CPU to reach roughly the same performance in that case (AMD is 1 generation behind here, I think Intel is 2).

Is there really "chipheads" who are predicting ARM ISA to buck this trend and start pulling ahead at equivalent technology nodes? By what mechanism do they believe this will happen, do you know?

Re: Rendering on the Apple M1 Max Chip

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> There’s really no way to understate what a colossal achievement Apple’s M1 processor is; compared with almost every modern x86-64 processor in its class On the other hand I'm sure there's more than a few chipheads out there who are saying "it's about time", there was a longstanding prediction that the arm architecture would overtake x86.

> there was a longstanding prediction that the arm architecture would overtake x86.

So now the wheel turns and someone will have to predict how long it takes before RISC-V overtakes ARM.

Re: Rendering on the Apple M1 Max Chip

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> There’s really no way to understate what a colossal achievement Apple’s M1 processor is; compared with almost every modern x86-64 processor in its class On the other hand I'm sure there's more than a few chipheads out there who are saying "it's about time", there was a longstanding prediction that the arm architecture would overtake x86.

It is about time, although it is worth saying that a bunch of the chips here are actually basically ancient due to being released years ago, or being fairly old microarchitectures. Hat's off to Apple, of course, but Intel were sort of a victim of their own success in that they nearly beat AMD to extinction over the last decade. I also note that there's no comparison with a properly modern X86 (i.e. an AMD 5000 series…

Almost might see intel actually come out with a new process node in the next year. Which is a long time coming.

Re: Rendering on the Apple M1 Max Chip

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I always wondered why Apple was pushing so much functionality into the iPhone that almost all users really didn't need. I was thinking it would get them ready for coming AR glasses and whatnot, but it was also preparing them to win on the Mac side as well.

Re: Rendering on the Apple M1 Max Chip

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>in order to give the M1 Max some real competition, one has to skip laptop chips entirely and reach for not just high end desktop chips, but for server-class workstation hardware to really beat the M1 Max this is really interesting

The AMD Threadripper 3990X costs about $5,000 and I'm guessing that's cheap compared to the Xeons.
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