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Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by davidbarker »

fnord123 wrote: post #216
Smoofer wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the _biggest_ thing holding MacOS back?

Reboot for an upgrade happens by holding a spin lock until it overheats and reboots. This happens every time on multiple computers so I think it's intentional(?) but the crash reports are pretty wild. No official package manager. The Macbook cases ground through the user when they're on an insulated surface (there is no ground pin on the Macbook power adapters). Audio crackles when the machine grounds through the use…

I’m not sure if you’re describing the same issue I had, but whenever my MBP (15”, 2018) would restart during an update (and sometimes just a regular restart), I would get the progress bar after entering my password. The fans would then spin up, the machine would get ridiculously hot, and the machine would restart. It was an endless loop.

Usually, I was able to get it to complete whatever it was trying to do and log me in by holding it directly in front of my air conditioning unit (this was as ridiculous as it sounds), but a few weeks ago even that didn’t work. I had to completely wipe the machine and reinstall macOS. It’s been fine so far.

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Post by neither_color »

0xFACEFEED wrote: post #298
pram wrote: post #293

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It’s absolute cancer. My favorite part is the creative cloud app randomly taking up 4gb+ of ram doing literally nothing.

I just force killed an Adobe installer running as root in the background. I don't know what it was installing or why.

It'll be back. I spent an half an hour figuring out how to stop all these processes from re-spawning once and then in the next update they came back.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by josephcsible »

MrWiffles wrote: post #181

I haven’t seen this anywhere when I’ve looked, so I’ll ask here on the slim chance maybe they really added something I badly want and somebody knows… Is there any application forced sandboxing feature yet? Something users can control to forcibly stop bad behavior from certain “must have” apps. Chrome, for example, has been caught doing entire drive scans on Windows, and I’m not sure I entirely trust Zoom either. So I…

Such a feature would be useless in practice, unless the sandbox could present convincing fake data. Without that, all of the evil apps you mention would just show a message box at startup saying "unsandbox me or I refuse to run".

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by stjohnswarts »

amatecha wrote: post #166
concinds wrote: post #144

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I don't like hero worship, but I happened to hear a Steve Jobs clip the other day, where he said: a great idea is only 10% what you think it's worth; the 90% is the implementation details and craftsmanship that goes into it. I don't want an OS that "doesn't make me pick between iCloud or ~/Documents". That just means turning macOS into ChromeOS. An OS with just a search bar would break a ridiculous amount of uses, fr…

It's hilarious, so many people seem to want to get rid of files and folders, but every single development team I've ever been on has a ton of documentation, working documents, prototypes, etc. organized in... get this: a hierarchical structure. Files within folders within other folders, and so on. Whether literal filesystem or web-based interface or whatever. I've never once seen a project of any sort happen without…

Yeah I agree. I mean what other option is there? A flat space where you search for everything and hope you remember the right words for it?

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by prewett »

concinds wrote: post #122

SharePlay to Mac (I tested audio) is utterly broken. Shockingly so. I just tried it again, and my music isn't paused, yet is stuck at 0:02. Pausing and unpausing it, and the song starts ticking, 0:03, 0:04, and so on, but you can't hear any audio. Pause it again. It goes back to 0:02. Now try this with AirPods connected to your Mac. Connect your iPhone's Apple Music to AirPlay to Mac. The YouTube video you had playin…

I'm on Mojave, but I've had the same symptom for audio happen to me but just using wired headphones, and `sudo killall -9 coreaudiod` fixes it.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by skhr0680 »

0xFACEFEED wrote: post #295
kayodelycaon wrote: post #291

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> I'm never touching Adobe software ever again unless there's a way to completely sandbox it. At this point I’m going to recommend a virtual machine.

I could, but I think it would take considerable effort on my part. You know how it is. You end up with a long tail of little things that don't quite work properly. Eventually I could get it to work but I'm so upset with Adobe that I'm straight up boycotting their software. I'm ashamed of this but I've fantasized about berating Adobe executives/engineers to their face if I ever met them in real life. Of course I'd nev…

> I still haven't had to go through the process of cancelling my Creative Cloud subscription. I'm sooo hoping they didn't throw in a bunch of dark patterns in there as well but I have feeling they will.

Their gotcha that I know about is that their advertised price per month is actually a year subscription / 12, with the true monthly subscription hidden. When you cancel they’ll try to get you to pay out the remaining months of the year.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by concinds »

concinds wrote: post #122

SharePlay to Mac (I tested audio) is utterly broken. Shockingly so. I just tried it again, and my music isn't paused, yet is stuck at 0:02. Pausing and unpausing it, and the song starts ticking, 0:03, 0:04, and so on, but you can't hear any audio. Pause it again. It goes back to 0:02. Now try this with AirPods connected to your Mac. Connect your iPhone's Apple Music to AirPlay to Mac. The YouTube video you had playin…

BTW, I can't edit my comment anymore, but I meant "AirPlay to Mac"

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by mmastrac »

fnord123 wrote: post #216
Smoofer wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the _biggest_ thing holding MacOS back?

Reboot for an upgrade happens by holding a spin lock until it overheats and reboots. This happens every time on multiple computers so I think it's intentional(?) but the crash reports are pretty wild. No official package manager. The Macbook cases ground through the user when they're on an insulated surface (there is no ground pin on the Macbook power adapters). Audio crackles when the machine grounds through the use…

> The Macbook cases ground through the user when they're on an insulated surface (there is no ground pin on the Macbook power adapters).

Oooh, I had fun with this one on an airplane. Kept getting shocks to my funny bone.

Re: macOS Monterey

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Post by neither_color »

0xFACEFEED wrote: post #290
MrWiffles wrote: post #181

I haven’t seen this anywhere when I’ve looked, so I’ll ask here on the slim chance maybe they really added something I badly want and somebody knows… Is there any application forced sandboxing feature yet? Something users can control to forcibly stop bad behavior from certain “must have” apps. Chrome, for example, has been caught doing entire drive scans on Windows, and I’m not sure I entirely trust Zoom either. So I…

I need this so badly. True story: I've been eagerly awaiting a new Macbook to completely rid myself of Adobe software. Over the past decade I've considered installing Adobe software but always held back because of how intrusive and shady the software is (I checked on friends' computers). I've been able to work around having to edit PDFs and used Figma in place of Photoshop for my very basic graphical needs. Well a fe…

>Once that laptop arrives I'm never touching Adobe software ever again unless there's a way to completely sandbox it.

If the ipad versions of illustrator and photoshop have the features you need that's the only way you can avoid all the nagware. I only need to do the occasional edit to a logo or photo so the ipad pro versions are enough and I prefer the pen to a mouse. I've stopped using them on desktop and use https://smallpdf.com for editing and signing pdfs.

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