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Re: Ask HN: Which NoCode platforms are fine?

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Post by 1cvmask »

jinen83 wrote: post #44

NoCode platforms can be further divided into sub category of tools. Depending on your need you got to look at using one or multiple tools. 1) BPM tools: build workflows & business processes. Tools like Appian, Pega, kissflow, etc 2) Form builders: jotform, typeform, etc 3) automation: Zapier, integromat, etc 4) Frontend builder - Consumer apps -> bubble, adalo, etc - Internal apps -> Retool, DronaHQ, Appsmith 5) App…

Is there a competitive landscape of all the different tools?

Surprised I haven't come across one yet...

Re: Ask HN: Which NoCode platforms are fine?

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Post by Raidion »

soco wrote: post #14
rcarmo wrote: post #3

It depends a lot on what you consider “Low Code” and what your target is. Corporate users tend to look at Mendix, OutSystems, etc. because they are typically looking at building end—to-end solutions, and those give you front-end, APIs and ORMs (or, rather, abstract all of those away). Most OSS or IoT folk will immediately point to Node-Red or n8n.io, which look similar but are actually quite different in focus (n8n i…

I tried a bit OutSystems and its learning curve is incredibly steep for what they claim to be. It all starts with a specialized Eclipse based environment to install and to learn and only goes downhill from there. I don't know any business user able to use it, and for a regular programmer it's just another language/environment to learn. Not sure why it's a thing.

I interviewed as a developer for a company that used outsystems. They said they had a lot of technology challenges, but were going to stick with outsystems. Their flagship app is rated less than 2.5 stars on Google Play, and needless to say, I did not pursue that position.

Re: Ask HN: Which NoCode platforms are fine?

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Post by anotheryou »

I'd love to build low-code a twitter client (that would need to mirror a bunch of the feed in to a db). Haven't found anything that would let me play with a specific api that easily and build a nice web app.

Feels like voice recognition: I tried every 3 years, since a looong time. And now that they are finally usable they still require an effortful pronunciation.

Re: Ask HN: Which NoCode platforms are fine?

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Post by ssijak »

yoran wrote: post #8

I'm an experienced web developer but I'm happy that we chose Webflow for the website of our mobile app. It allows my non-technical colleagues to make basic changes to the website, like copy changes or moving blocks around. But Webflow doesn't abstract away the underlying web technologies (just makes it visual) so it's still easy for me to go in and make more "complicated" changes. It's not a panacea but I think they…

Their CMS is trash though. Treasure throve of bugs and issues, especially if you sync your stuff to it. Not to mention 10k limit across all projects even on Enterprise plan, non negotiable.

Re: Ask HN: Which NoCode platforms are fine?

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

Avalaxy wrote: post #49

All I hear around here is Mendix. Experiences with it seem to be quite good. I think it's more low-code than no-code as you can write custom things with Java.

I think it counts as no-code if you can write many things without any code; having the ability to augment with code shouldn't disqualify unless the no-code part is too limited to actually use without breaking out into code.

Re: Ask HN: Which NoCode platforms are fine?

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Post by rectang »

I would say "none of the No Code platforms I've seen are fine", because all the ones I'm familiar with have either inadequate testing or no testing at all. The problem is that apps built without testing don't scale past a certain level of complexity — and so complex projects built with No Code tend to fall apart as they become successful.

It's not that it can't be done, but that there's probably very little demand for it. By and large the target market for No Code doesn't value testing.

If you know of a No Code platform with good testing support, I'd love to hear about it...

Re: Ask HN: Which NoCode platforms are fine?

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Post by ArtWomb »

jinen83 wrote: post #44

NoCode platforms can be further divided into sub category of tools. Depending on your need you got to look at using one or multiple tools. 1) BPM tools: build workflows & business processes. Tools like Appian, Pega, kissflow, etc 2) Form builders: jotform, typeform, etc 3) automation: Zapier, integromat, etc 4) Frontend builder - Consumer apps -> bubble, adalo, etc - Internal apps -> Retool, DronaHQ, Appsmith 5) App…

This is a very useful thread ;)

Not sure where it would fit in, but Looker adoption is crazy. It's deeper though: no-code data modeling

Re: Ask HN: Which NoCode platforms are fine?

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Post by cies »

desertraven wrote: post #6

I'm not sure if it fits the criteria, but Hasura has made backends considerably quicker to build.

No code, or low code. I dont care as long as it is not "any thing you want that is not a straightup feature requires LOTS of ugly code".

Hasura allows me to create a schema and then use it in a type safe manner in the front end (through GraphQL). This is a game changer to me: very little code in the model/controller layer.

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