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Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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Does the current administration follow SCOTUS rulings? Edit: why am I being downvotes? The president explicitly stated his plan to ignore another SCOTUS ruling

Yeah the SCOTUS has basically no legitimacy left at both the federal and state level. States are routinely ignoring Supreme Court rulings and have for years, and federal agencies don’t listen to them either anymore. The rule of law in the US is on life support right now. Another Trump presidency will kick the patient out the window.

Another Trump presidency will be the end of democracy in the USA. He will install cronies at the top of the military leadership and do exactly what Erdoğan did in Turkey. It's as sure a thing as the sun rising. He will not depend on a bunch of untrained rabble to take over the Capitol next time.

Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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Yeah the SCOTUS has basically no legitimacy left at both the federal and state level. States are routinely ignoring Supreme Court rulings and have for years, and federal agencies don’t listen to them either anymore. The rule of law in the US is on life support right now. Another Trump presidency will kick the patient out the window.

We are in another Trump presidency for all practical purposes. Increasing surveillance, rule by executive order, no respect for the press, no transparency, business as usual, threatening other countries. Not much has changed.

Not even close. Another Trump regime will spell the end of any democracy at all in the USA. He will finish the fascist insurrection that he started.

Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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post #141

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If the car was used multiple shootings, the same phone was in that area and the phone was used to search for the victims name every time then we have everything we need but are unwilling to use it? We can probably figure out how to extract such data and cross reference it without making any of it available to random government employees. Say you take pictures of license plates, store the data some place safe and allo…

>Sure, you'd get pretty mad if every time you get robbed the police searches your vehicle but they don't need to break anything and you will get over it. Or I'll stop calling the police, especially if that first invasive experience doesn't end with my belongings returned.

>Or I'll stop calling the police, especially if that first invasive experience doesn't end with my belongings returned.

Oh my sweet summer child. Calling the police is never about getting the belongings back. Calling the police is only about striking the perpetrator with violence, hoping that it would equalize the karma levels.

Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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The only sensible solution is to name JS and CSS frameworks using the keyword list.

Reminds me when the trigger keywords for Echelon[1] leaked on the internet [2]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

[2] https://www.theregister.com/2001/05/31/what_are_those_words/

Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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post #154
post #134

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The article does say "specific addresses and phone numbers." So if a legal warrant can be issued for police to stake out a specific address, or wiretap a specific phone number, why would it be worse to have another legal warrant for asking Google for information about searches for that same address or phone number?

I suppose because searches sometimes feel partially like thoughts and partially like actions. They also mentioned "names" and not just phone numbers. In any case, names/phone numbers/addresses are often ambiguous, so it's trawling in things that don't feel like probable cause. There's also a screenshot of one warranted search in the article that had no names/addresses/phone numbers. They wanted everyone that searched…

> Pre-internet, it feels like a warrant for anyone that ran their finger down page xyz of the phone book.

More like inquiring for / looking at certain books in the library. Which is something I'm sure happened all the time, historically.

Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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>Sure, you'd get pretty mad if every time you get robbed the police searches your vehicle but they don't need to break anything and you will get over it. Or I'll stop calling the police, especially if that first invasive experience doesn't end with my belongings returned.

>Or I'll stop calling the police, especially if that first invasive experience doesn't end with my belongings returned. Oh my sweet summer child. Calling the police is never about getting the belongings back. Calling the police is only about striking the perpetrator with violence, hoping that it would equalize the karma levels.

> Calling the police is only about striking the perpetrator with violence, hoping that it would equalize the karma levels.

Or, you know, prevent them from doing crimes again.

Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the car was used multiple shootings, the same phone was in that area and the phone was used to search for the victims name every time then we have everything we need but are unwilling to use it? We can probably figure out how to extract such data and cross reference it without making any of it available to random government employees. Say you take pictures of license plates, store the data some place safe and allo…

>Sure, you'd get pretty mad if every time you get robbed the police searches your vehicle but they don't need to break anything and you will get over it. Or I'll stop calling the police, especially if that first invasive experience doesn't end with my belongings returned.

Well, generally you need to file a police report to file an insurance claim, so whether or not they do you any good (or even harm), you don't have a lot of alternatives (unless you don't have insurance, in which case you also don't have a lot of alternatives, likely).

Re: Feds order Google to track people searching certain names or details

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post #154

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I suppose because searches sometimes feel partially like thoughts and partially like actions. They also mentioned "names" and not just phone numbers. In any case, names/phone numbers/addresses are often ambiguous, so it's trawling in things that don't feel like probable cause. There's also a screenshot of one warranted search in the article that had no names/addresses/phone numbers. They wanted everyone that searched…

> Pre-internet, it feels like a warrant for anyone that ran their finger down page xyz of the phone book. More like inquiring for / looking at certain books in the library. Which is something I'm sure happened all the time, historically.

>in the library

Maybe, if "in the library" means "in almost every library in the nation for each warrant".

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