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Post by mackatsol »

shp0ngle wrote: post #88
moneywoes wrote: post #2

Do ARM compatibility issues still exist?

Yes, and they will never go away entirely You can never run x86 dockers as easily and as quickly as on intel. If you have bunch of scripts in some deployment/development pipeline that depend on docker being x86, they will fail. Other things…I’m not sure about October 2021, but last time I looked, R was still only available through Rosetta, because parts of R are in FORTRAN and that does not have native M1 support (ye…

You can run Windows ARM in emulation, as the MS Surface uses ARM and has a version of Windows available.

I have run Windows ARM in Parallels on an M1 on a client's machine.

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by hardwaregeek »

beaner wrote: post #90
bombcar wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's amusing about the "design purity" is this is basically (from an externals point of view) an upgraded PowerBook G4. Good design isn't limited to "make it look as much like a thin sheet of metal as possible".

Personally I dislike this bit. Thinness isn't everything, but it's something. I don't know that the new models really needed to look as brick-ish as they do, and the previous design was certainly sexier.

Yeah like I get that Apple went too far but thinness is a really important quality. People love thin, sleek objects. For the average consumer that may be a bigger factor than an SD card reader.

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by Hamuko »

beaner wrote: post #90
bombcar wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's amusing about the "design purity" is this is basically (from an externals point of view) an upgraded PowerBook G4. Good design isn't limited to "make it look as much like a thin sheet of metal as possible".

Personally I dislike this bit. Thinness isn't everything, but it's something. I don't know that the new models really needed to look as brick-ish as they do, and the previous design was certainly sexier.

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the new design. That being said, I really, really want one.

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by neonscribe »

prepend wrote: post #115
neonscribe wrote: post #107

If I had to choose between an SD card slot and a USB-A port, I definitely would have chosen a USB-A port. I would take both, if possible. I would even give up a USB-C port for a USB-A port, but that might be a little backward-thinking. The USB-A to USB-C adapter is small and inexpensive, but it is still something I will need, mainly for the occasional flash drive.

I disagree. I don’t purposefully keep A and C devices. I’m switching everything over to C and have dongles to do that. Supporting both wastes the space for when I’ve moved to C. I’m more likely to have an A->C dongle than an SD card reader.

We may live in the future, but many of us still work with people who live in the past. I know Apple always tries hard to be forward-thinking, but USB-A is one of those ubiquitous standards that won't disappear for quite some time.

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by oleganza »

beaner wrote: post #90
bombcar wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's amusing about the "design purity" is this is basically (from an externals point of view) an upgraded PowerBook G4. Good design isn't limited to "make it look as much like a thin sheet of metal as possible".

Personally I dislike this bit. Thinness isn't everything, but it's something. I don't know that the new models really needed to look as brick-ish as they do, and the previous design was certainly sexier.

Speaking of backpacks, I was expecting that M1 energy effeciency would allow for less weight to carry rather than +10 hours of standalone time. A few hours of life, but 0.5 kg less weight would be a better tradeoff for me. (I'm talking weight, not thinness. A thicker body with better heat dispersion is fine, as long as extra space is taken up by air.)

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by dang »

Ongoing related threads:

MacBook Pro 14-inch and 16-inch review (2021): Apple’s mighty Macs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28987380 - Oct 2021 (81 comments)

Apple's M1 Pro, M1 Max SoCs Investigated - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28987276 - Oct 2021 (78 comments)

Previously:

New 16-inch MBP with M1 Max to feature High Power Mode for intensive workloads - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28950733 - Oct 2021 (105 comments)

Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28933663 - Oct 2021 (870 comments)

MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28908383 - Oct 2021 (2056 comments)

Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28908031 - Oct 2021 (981 comments)

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by wyldfire »

kgermino wrote: post #104
wyldfire wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So it is a subtle joke? What was the intent of the butterfly design change, then? Just reduced key travel?

Yep I think the writer intended it as a joke, or at least a comment on how bad the butterfly keys were. The butterfly keyboards didn’t do much except help make a laptops a bit thinner. That had the effect of reduced key travel (often seen as a negative) and massive reliability problems (universally bad).

Oh, my mistake. I assumed that the "reduced key travel" was actually a feature.

If I re-read it as two negatives, it doesn't seem like a joke so much as a straightforward criticism.

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by avojak »

geerlingguy wrote: post #120
avojak wrote: post #108

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Another +1 from me for the CalDigit TS3+ dock. I've been using it for about 1 1/2 years now with dual 4K UHD @ 60Hz displays, and haven't had any issues whatsoever. I also use it for a wired network connection and several USB peripherals at the same time. I really appreciate its layout where most ports are rear-facing so that you don't have cables on your desk coming out towards you and then looping back. The additio…

I have two that I've used four 3-4 years, and both are rock solid. Very rarely do I need to unplug and replug (e.g. if a display doesn't get identified properly). With the other TB3 docks I tried, they'd all have really annoying issues or even require reboots from time to time.

Great point about needing to unplug and replug displays back in. I had issues with that at first, but it turned out to be a result of a bad DisplayPort->HDMI adapter. Now that I'm using normal DisplayPort and Thunderbolt cables direct to the displays from the dock I haven't had any issues. And if I need to change the input on one of the displays it's all handled seamlessly and macOS flips over to recognizing only one external display.

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by cjbconnor »

seanalltogether wrote: post #103
cjbconnor wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using the Caldigit TS3+ for the last ~year, and it's pretty good. The only real issue with it I have is the fact that it only supports DisplayPort 1.2, so I have to run another cable for my 4k 120hz display.

What version of displayport is needed to support that? I thought that 2560x1440 was the highest resolution you could run over displayport with 120hz or 144hz

Displayport 1.4 (with DSC enabled) can support 4k 144hz+ with HDR enabled
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