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Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by yholio »

dhosek wrote: post #11

How will they overcharge for gas with these?

It's quite simple to figure out, once you understand no electric charging and consumption can happen without the knowledge of the car computer, which is programmed by Tesla, which just received a $5 bilion dolar order from Hertz. Surely they can fit a bit of Hertz-specific "charge monitoring" code in this price tag.

In fact, electrics open up a whole world of pricing and customer ripoff models.

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by zemptime »

aqzman wrote: post #15

I say this having never driven a Tesla, but are they really suitable rental cars? My understanding is that Tesla vehicles differ quite a bit from regular ICE vehicles, to the point that there's a bit of a learning curve to operating the car. I'd be interested to hear from a Tesla owner on this. Maybe it's a non-issue.

I hopped in my Tesla for the first time and after a single stop sign where I stopped kind of weird (not honestly that bad), that was it. The Tesla person on the initial lesson assumed I'd driven one before. You get the hang of it really quick. Same story for many other people who've driven my car. If you're not using regenerative breaking it's pretty much like a normal car sans the small acceleration gas cars provide with no braking.

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by uxp100 »

I assume there is a little bit of a "meme stock" element to this, the reddit folks will love it, but I think I would pay a small premium for an electric car when renting (unless I needed long distance). More likely I pay a premium for that than for than the higher end ICE car options at car rental.

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by atonse »

dhosek wrote: post #11

How will they overcharge for gas with these?

Even higher margins with electricity.

Instead of charging you $5 a gallon, they can even charge $.50 per kWh (or translate it to miles) and that's something like a 3x markup. Even more if they use a renewable energy source.

In my rough calculations, it costs something like $5-$7 to charge from empty to full on my Model-3 mid-range.

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by SEJeff »

postingawayonhn wrote: post #18
Guest42 wrote: post #10

I wonder the pricing.

Tesla doesn't seem to have any problem with demand so I would speculate they're paying the advertised price.

It was said elsewhere that Hertz payed full list price for these, but is getting some help from Tesla in setting up their charging infra.

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by 1123581321 »

aqzman wrote: post #15

I say this having never driven a Tesla, but are they really suitable rental cars? My understanding is that Tesla vehicles differ quite a bit from regular ICE vehicles, to the point that there's a bit of a learning curve to operating the car. I'd be interested to hear from a Tesla owner on this. Maybe it's a non-issue.

Try a test drive sometime. The Tesla stores only need to give a minute of explanation. A rental employee would do the same thing. They are easy to understand.

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Post by xiphias2 »

aqzman wrote: post #15

I say this having never driven a Tesla, but are they really suitable rental cars? My understanding is that Tesla vehicles differ quite a bit from regular ICE vehicles, to the point that there's a bit of a learning curve to operating the car. I'd be interested to hear from a Tesla owner on this. Maybe it's a non-issue.

As a non-Tesla owner, I'd love to rent a Tesla on my vacations just to try it before deciding on buying one. I'd say it's much better for renting than buying, as I know how I would use it beforehand.

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by zemptime »

zemptime wrote: post #22
aqzman wrote: post #15

I say this having never driven a Tesla, but are they really suitable rental cars? My understanding is that Tesla vehicles differ quite a bit from regular ICE vehicles, to the point that there's a bit of a learning curve to operating the car. I'd be interested to hear from a Tesla owner on this. Maybe it's a non-issue.

I hopped in my Tesla for the first time and after a single stop sign where I stopped kind of weird (not honestly that bad), that was it. The Tesla person on the initial lesson assumed I'd driven one before. You get the hang of it really quick. Same story for many other people who've driven my car. If you're not using regenerative breaking it's pretty much like a normal car sans the small acceleration gas cars provide…

Actually a metaphor just came to mind.

Imagine you've been playing on a 60hz refresh rate monitor forever. Then, you play your favorite fps on a 120hz refresh rate monitor.

That's what the difference feels like.

Re: Hertz orders 100k Teslas

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Post by nrjames »

akmarinov wrote: post #19
aqzman wrote: post #15

I say this having never driven a Tesla, but are they really suitable rental cars? My understanding is that Tesla vehicles differ quite a bit from regular ICE vehicles, to the point that there's a bit of a learning curve to operating the car. I'd be interested to hear from a Tesla owner on this. Maybe it's a non-issue.

In what sense? They’re quite a bit quicker than ICE cars and regeneration is something you need to get used to, but nothing that’s radically different. With these the big issue would be charging them - people might not know not to go to a gas station. Also wonder how the “full tank” policy will work with EVs where ideally you want to hover around 80% Where they might not be suitable rental cars is the reliability. Th…

If they are ordering 100k of them, there's a chance Hertz gets a customized version of the software the specifically directs people to Superchargers and/or has some type of instructional flow they have to go through before they can drive.
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