Buffet openly brags about the anti vomiting effect. Saw this in a talk he gave to Indian MBA students and I was shocked.
Who's Buffet?
Presumably Warren Buffett, long time coke investor who reports he drinks 5 cans of the stuff per day.
Two conspiracy theories about cola
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Re: Two conspiracy theories about cola
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
How many people actually read those warnings? See logo, buy product, consume product. Much like those mandated warnings on tobacco. Guy looks at pack 1 with a warning "May cause cancer", puts it back. Guy looks at pack 2 with a warning "May cause birth defects". Guy decides that's now his brand. (appologies to Bill Hicks)
In the UK we get 'candy' imports that are saturated with azo-dyes, they are not banned, they just have a warning on the packet, yup, a warning on the packet that says 'may cause hyperactivity', when I've drawn other parents attention, either they have never noticed it, or dismiss it as a sugar high, https://hacsg.org.uk/artificial-food-colourings-and-adhd-hyp...
Got anything that mentions amounts? This page is failing to properly quote or link to the things it talks about.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
And recent studies show HFCS alters the folds in your gut, lengthening them. This increased surface area significantly increases the amount of calories your intestines can extract from the same volume of food.
In case anyone else is curious about this: >The research, published August 18 in Nature, focused on the effect of a high-fructose diet on villi, the thin, hairlike structures that line the inside of the small intestine. Villi expand the surface area of the gut and help the body to absorb nutrients, including dietary fats, from food as it passes through the digestive tract. The study found that mice that were fed diet…
> 25 percent to 40 percent longer than those of mice that were not fed fructose.
Did they compare against sucrose? I see they did have it but can't see if that result was in comparison to the control or to it.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't remember Lucozade being anything _but_ a drink for recovery from illness. (Remember the yellow cellophane wrapped bottles?!) I have no idea how it attained this reputation. These days, Lucozade Sport (in multiple flavours) has taken over, but being "isotonic", presumably has various salts.
Same here (as a kid growing up in the 80s) - it was always a drink for when you were ill. Lucozade also had a reputation as being even more sugary than other fizzy drinks. I'm sure it was even marketed back then as an 'energy' drink. I see that nowdays even the sugar-free lucozade is advertised as an energy drink, I'm not sure quite how that works, though!
Caffeine, probably!
Re: Two conspiracy theories about cola
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, whatever the duration, you'll eventually stop vomiting some time after taking the medicine. Sometimes by chance it will seem like a remarkably short time from medicine to cure compared to the duration of the sickness. This is how a lot of ineffective traditional medicines "work". For a cold or nausea, nearly everyone will experience their problem fixing itself after taking the medicine and combined with cultural…
"Yes, whatever the duration, you'll eventually stop vomiting some time after taking the medicine." That's a gross oversimplification. You could continue to vomit. You could also die. There are multiple types/causes for vomiting. Not all vomiting simply stops on it's own. "It's good old mind-tricks of correlation vs causation." I'd say this is more than just mind tricks. The study shows there's a strong correlation an…
Mostly vomiting stops on its own and people don't die. Even when someone dies, it won't break the beliefs of survivors because they don't believe it works 100% of the time anyway. In your case, you even took an ineffective dose of Emetrol but still believed in its effectiveness despite that! How many ineffective doses would it take for you to not credit Emertol with stopping the vomiting?
If there's a scientific study, that might show something better than the giant fail-fest of cultural medical knowledge. I don't know of any human society that hasn't at least historically had a bunch of ineffective medicine that was widely used. Even modern western society probably has some - such as this Emetrol perhaps or wrong results of drug trials. An extreme case is China where normal doctors in hospitals routinely prescribe herbal remedies alongside conventional medicine.
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#126Good article, but I'm skeptical of the point raised in the "P.S." section (which leads me to doubt some of the other points in the article): > aspartame has basically zero negative effects ...diet cola is much safer than real cola. I won't argue that sugar isn't bad for you, but I don't think the science (and my own observation) agrees that diet cola - specifically aspartame - is "much safer" or somehow healthier. Th…
related:
2021: "Artificial Sweeteners Negatively Regulate Pathogenic Characteristics of Two Model Gut Bacteria, E. coli and E. faecalis"
Re: Two conspiracy theories about cola
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fermentation is not the principal pathway by which bacteria process sugar. In particular, sugar is a key raw material for growth, when available. LMGTFY: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bacteria+sugar+pathway
Uhh... sure. If you don't want to call it fermentation that's ok. Though I don't imagine human gut bacteria are respirating, or some other more exotic form of metabolism. Point is, the products of bacterial metabolism of sugar in the human gut tend to cause issues, as in lactose intolerance, or the more rare sucrose intolerance. Hence my request for a citation on fibre delaying absorption of fructose so that "bacteri…
"Raw material for growth" means actually using the carbons to make the molecules that the daughter cells are made out of. So, not fermenting, and not respiring either.
I am only passing on what Robert Lustig, who is in a position to know, reports. You would have to ask him.
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#128Interestingly, my go-to hangover/nausea remedy has always been Coca Cola. I had no idea that OTC anti-nausea medication also contains phosphoric acid, or that it was even an antiemetic (or not, as it seems). I've always put it down to the fact that Coca Cola is very effective at washing out the taste of vomit.
Being Scottish, Barr's Irn Bru (full fat) was my go-to as a pick-me-up after a night on the sauce. Sadly now ruined by artificial sweeteners replacing some of the sugar due to government sugar taxes on pop.
Ah I haven't had Irn Bru in ages. I used to find it at some supermarkets in the US, but I haven't seen it in around a decade. Sad to hear they've changed the recipe.
Re: Two conspiracy theories about cola
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
In case anyone else is curious about this: >The research, published August 18 in Nature, focused on the effect of a high-fructose diet on villi, the thin, hairlike structures that line the inside of the small intestine. Villi expand the surface area of the gut and help the body to absorb nutrients, including dietary fats, from food as it passes through the digestive tract. The study found that mice that were fed diet…
Worth noting that the "in mice" qualifier might be particularly apropos here. > According to Taylor, the observations in mice make sense from an evolutionary perspective. "In mammals, especially hibernating mammals in temperate climates, you have fructose being very available in the fall months when the fruit is ripe," he said. "Eating a lot of fructose may help these animals to absorb and convert more nutrients to f…
Mice also don't hibernate.
Our evolution had a lot of steps, so well possible that we too have this feature as in the past it might have been adaptive.
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#130Kind of tangential to the article but regarding phosphoric acid and its use as anti-nausea, is this why bubbly white sodas are a household cure for upset stomachs? This was a go-to for my family in the US as a kid when I had a stomach flu (saltines and 7-up), and i guess it was pretty common
Bicarbonate of soda used to be a very popular remedy for upset stomach. People might associate coke with that.