Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal

Post by kevinmchugh » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 3:57 AM UTC

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Woah, so if a user is logged into chrome, Google has permission / is able to track all web activity for that user?

Frankly, I'm not sure about the current state of things, seeing as it likely has changed several times in the past few years. However, a) I'm not sure why Goog would want to bother with browser accounts otherwise, and b) my use of Chrome ceased soonish after I had the following experience in the early 2010s: - set up a new empty site, listed absolutely nowhere, on quite dedicated hosting. - open it in Chrome. - a cou…

Post by bigiain » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 4:10 AM UTC

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Some do. Others spend a million dollars a month on whatever stupid idea a team of Account Managers in $6000 suits/outfits with $500 haircuts pitch to them. And then congratulate themselves when the Analytics Department produces graphs of whatever meaningless metrics they can find or make up that go "up and to the right" for each month. And the Regional Ad Buyer and the Digital Agency will convince themselves that att…

This isn't the 1900s. You can measure how well an ad performs and how well it converts into a sale.

Post by brianwawok » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 4:19 AM UTC

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... the biggest win would be a business model that could win with them in the free market. The alternative business model is so simple and is already in place --- simply advertise based on expressed interest. This is what DuckDuckGo is doing very effectively. Show ads based on search words. No global, privacy invading network required. Amazon is doing the same quite effectively. Their ad business is growing by leaps…

That's how Google used to do things back in the day! I still don't get how in the hell could personalized ads be more profitable. All I've heard is the "we'll keep showing you ads for toasters after you bought one because you'd buy another if the first one breaks" meme but where's the hard evidence on personalized ads getting more clicks?! Contextual at least intuitively seems to make way more sense.

Post by ldehaan » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 5:20 AM UTC

Post by boudin » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 6:44 AM UTC

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Can a campaign like Mozilla did to promote firefox when ie6 was a monopoly work? Promote a different browser when someone uses chrome with the possibility to get explanations about it. Contacting admins of sites that only works in chrome, this kind of thing. Could this information be used to try to push chromium based browser like brave and edge to switch to another engine, lowering the influence of google on the web…

> Can a campaign like Mozilla did to promote firefox when ie6 was a monopoly work? Yes; it worked. somehow, they blew the goodwill away. /me still a Firefox user. I'll fly away if something better comes along - FF is very much a compromise.