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Re: Reasons to switch from Windows to Linux

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I don't understand what you're getting at. When you develop for Xbox, do you connect a keyboard to your Xbox and launch Visual Studio directly on the console? What do the Xbox or XCloud have to do with developer marketshare? They're targets, not development platforms. Are you arguing that the Stackoverflow stats are wrong?

Actually you can do that with a DevKit, yes. Stackoverflow stats reflect the vocal audience that bothers answering their surveys. That is the problem with statistics, when there is a chicken and two people, each has eaten half.

> Actually you can do that with a DevKit, yes.

I mean, with sideloading on an Xbox technically sure, you can do anything. But to be clear, your average developers are not doing development on Xboxes directly, they're using Unity/Unreal and treating their Xbox as a compile target. And certainly they're not doing remote development on XCloud, that would be a wildly inefficient way to write software when instead you could just develop locally on any machine.

> Stackoverflow stats reflect the vocal audience that bothers answering their surveys.

Do you really genuinely think that Stackoverflow's blog is so unrepresentative that it's undercounting significant numbers of developers that are installing Visual Studio on an XBox?

I still just don't understand what conclusion you're trying to draw. Am I just misunderstanding what you're saying, or are you really arguing that these are development platforms that people are commonly using as their daily driver to write software? Because... they're not. There's not a hidden uncounted majority of people who bought Xboxes because they love the experience of hooking them up to their computer peripherals and using them as their software development platform.

Re: Reasons to switch from Windows to Linux

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I went to linux around the time ME was on the shelf, not sure why I'd want to move to windows, I want something that just works.

I also want something hat just works! When I boot Windows, my 2 plugged monitors work seamlessly. When I boot Linux... it's complicated [1] (pragmatically it doesn't work because I am using Nvidia drivers, and won't use the shitty Nouveau drivers. And even if you use them , good luck tinkering for hours with text config files and whatnot) Linux mint 20 is my main OS in my self-built PC ( and works for me pretty well…

Your experience is clearly different to mine, I have 1 monitors on my desktop which work fine, I also have a separate fitlet PC for monitoring purposes with a hdmi monitor and a separate touchscreen USB one.

Both just work, with the only configuration I had to do was to swap them round (left/right) is display settings.

Maybe windows has caught up with this now, last time I used windows I had to install "drivers", which seemed to be advertising programs which took up most of my CPU, to use basic peripherals.

Re: Reasons to switch from Windows to Linux

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Yet another one of thoses guides. When XP came out everyone was going to go GNU/Linux, due to Toy'R us interface. When Vista came out everyone was going to go GNU/Linux, due to DX 10 drivers and hardware requirements. When 8.x came out everyone was going to go GNU/Linux, due to tablet UI. When 10 came out everyone was going to go GNU/Linux, due to telemetry. Now Windows 11 came out, naturally everyone is going to go…

It's worth noting that desktop Linux has improved remarkably in the last 5 years. I know that this is always said, but compared to, say, 2012 when Windows 8 was announced we have: * Youtube, Netflix and other services that Windows 7 users would have taken for granted that weren't available by default on Linux * Stable drivers for infamous Wifi problems * Thousands of games working since Proton was released in 2018 [0…

What if I don't care about games?

Re: Reasons to switch from Windows to Linux

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Okay let's go through this list.

1) Avoid costly hardware upgrades - valid, Microsoft loves to make you upgrade, and it sucks

2) Fight toxic waste - Eh, it helps, but most users don't want to use a 10-year-old PC anyway, so there's a limit to how much waste you can really fight. Plus mobile devices greatly outweigh PCs pound for pound.

3) Keep the right to run the programs you want - Total nonsense. The article says "what if the government forces Microsoft to block some programs". Won't that apply to Linux also? Won't they see what you downloaded from your ISP? There's a weird belief in the tech world that if you can just avoid the law technically, the government will just give up. "Oh snap, you got us, you're good man. Next time!" hearty handshakes all around

4) Run your computer without surveillance - Again, nonsense. This speculates that because Windows 11 requires a camera (which is technically a lie anyway), Windows 11 will stream a live feed of you back to Microsoft. Think of the bandwidth usage! Ugly photos of you will be in Redmond servers! This is another Linux user problem: assuming that if a company does A, they'll be able to take the next step without outcry. Oh, they required a camera? Well then they can just stream a feed of your video back home and no one will complain! They got us! Those tricksters! No. In reality if Microsoft sent a feed of video back home, they would be lambasted. They would be discovered by security researchers and they'd never live it down. It would be the end of Microsoft.

5) Avoid conveniences that lock you in - So because Teams is installed by default, you'll he "locked in"? In reality, no one uses Teams unless they're made to. By work, school, etc. and those decisions are made at an institutional level above you. So good luck avoiding Teams in 2021. Using Linux won't help you with that.

6) Run your computer without a Microsoft account - Valid. If this bothers you, you should use Linux!

7) Customize your desktop - valid, this one is obvious

8) Enjoy the most recent and stable versions of free software - valid

9) Increase computing diversity - valid, although diversity is also a synonym for "fragmentation"

10) Launch your skills as a programmer - This one is old as the hills, but it's kind of nonsense. Mac and WSL have equally good developer environments. "Use Linux become programmer" is just post hoc ergo proctor hoc.

11) Choose computing freedom - Valid. However, software freedom is a slight myth. You're "free" to modify Chromium and remove Google. But it's really difficult. You can run Ubuntu without systemd, but you're in for a world of hurt.

Re: Reasons to switch from Windows to Linux

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also want something hat just works! When I boot Windows, my 2 plugged monitors work seamlessly. When I boot Linux... it's complicated [1] (pragmatically it doesn't work because I am using Nvidia drivers, and won't use the shitty Nouveau drivers. And even if you use them , good luck tinkering for hours with text config files and whatnot) Linux mint 20 is my main OS in my self-built PC ( and works for me pretty well…

Your experience is clearly different to mine, I have 1 monitors on my desktop which work fine, I also have a separate fitlet PC for monitoring purposes with a hdmi monitor and a separate touchscreen USB one. Both just work, with the only configuration I had to do was to swap them round (left/right) is display settings. Maybe windows has caught up with this now, last time I used windows I had to install "drivers", whi…

> Maybe windows has caught up with this now, last time I used windows I had to install "drivers", which seemed to be advertising programs which took up most of my CPU, to use basic peripherals.

This comment kind of decreases the your argument. If you are using Linux you know what a device driver is. This naïve take on drivers just doesn't fly. I couldn't ware less about windows, but the last time I used it (I think Windows 7) I didn't have to install any additional driver.

And on Linux you also have to install "drivers" either closed source (nvidia) or open source (nouveau) to make use of 3d acceleration. So, if you don't know what these "drivers" are, I suggest you read on them and how to install them in your preferred Linux distro, as it can strongly improve your Linux experience if you happen to have a discrete graphics chip in your computer.

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