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Re: Two conspiracy theories about cola

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Post by joosters »

smnrchrds wrote: post #54
arrosenberg wrote: post #35

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Your stomach pH is consistently monitored and buffered by the feedback mechanisms in your body. Depending on your sensitivities, infusing a large amount of acidity all at once can absolutely cause stomach issues.

Coca-colas have a pH of 2.4 to 3 [1]. Stomach acid's pH is 1.5 to 3.5 [2]. So coca-cola has acidity that is very close to that of stomach acid. Water's pH is around 7. I am no doctor, but wouldn't that suggest that drinking water will unbalance stomach's acidity worse than coca-cola will? [1] https://www.ada.org/en/~/media/ADA/Public%20Programs/Files/J... [2] https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/003883.htm

The pH scale is exponential, so a pH of 2.4 compared to 1.5 is roughly a tenth as acidic as the stomach's. Is that 'close' ? I'm not sure.

Re: Two conspiracy theories about cola

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Post by bluedino »

nemo44x wrote: post #90
bluedino wrote: post #79

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Highly scientific test: https://youtu.be/Hzat3Sv1Vwg

I sort of agree with their comments that they feel like cans have “more bite”. I think that’s what I’ve noticed too. As if the cans have larger bubbles or something. Plastic bottles always seemed “smoother” to me like they had lots of really small bubbles.

I rate them glass > fountain > can > plastic

Re: Two conspiracy theories about cola

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Post by dylan604 »

short12 wrote: post #83
bluedino wrote: post #82

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Unlike the USA, Mexico has warnings on their Coke and Pepsi, about excess calories and how it is not meant for children.

Those warnings sure worked considering childhood obesity of mexico

How many people actually read those warnings? See logo, buy product, consume product. Much like those mandated warnings on tobacco. Guy looks at pack 1 with a warning "May cause cancer", puts it back. Guy looks at pack 2 with a warning "May cause birth defects". Guy decides that's now his brand. (appologies to Bill Hicks)

Re: Two conspiracy theories about cola

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Post by ncmncm »

vetinari wrote: post #22
ncmncm wrote: post #15

There is nothing harmless about liquid fructose, or liquid sugar (which is half fructose). The people who know the most about fructose blame it for the huge public health crisis that the US (and UK, Pakistan, India, and some other countries) are suffering, manifested as insulin resistance and type #2 diabetes, "metabolic syndrome". It kills way more than COVID. Specifically: fructose is mostly processed only by the l…

I think that the first who was talking about this was Gary Taubes. His talks and books are worth a look.

Robert Lustig, as an endocrinologist specializing in liver metabolism, is more immediately credible than Gary Taubes, a journalist.

That Taubes's critics are wrong (e.g., in first paragraph of his Wikipedia page) seems worth mentioning.

Re: Two conspiracy theories about cola

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Post by ab3rC1te »

Coke Cola use to be based off cocaine. Like playing Red Dead Redemption with the tonic drink mixes back in the day. Was based off herbial and natural ingredients, compared to today's standard of processed and further processed refinement. I'd rather have the damn cocaine to keep me addictive to a drink instead of all the bullshit that's processed into a cola drink now a days. You open one up and it can't stay fizzy no more then 20 mins. Which in reality all soda drinks are root causes of modern day deseases.

Re: Two conspiracy theories about cola

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Post by antonzabirko »

ncmncm wrote: post #84
antonzabirko wrote: post #67

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Nah, more like I can feel the side effects of hfcs more easily. I can still eat it and be fine, just have that plus a bit of indigestion.

Apparently you are not aware of the wide range of allergic effects. For myself, I get tiny blisters on the backs of my hands and neck from cranberries. And, onions make my sinuses bleed. Indigestion is more common.

I am indeed, i know allergies vs non-allergies. Consider the reactions people have to fried food. You would bin that all under allergies with your logic.

Re: Two conspiracy theories about cola

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Post by inpdx »

When I used to be able to get Kosher for Passover sugar sweetened Coke, I absolutely could tell the difference - did multiple blind tests. It's possible the sucrose hasn't had time to fully break down in recently bottled Coke. The other theory wrt taste differences is the chemicals used in extracting HFCS leave a small but non-negligible taste.

Re: Two conspiracy theories about cola

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Post by smegger001 »

dghughes wrote: post #40
pirate787 wrote: post #29

For context on the Mexican cola, US cola had sugar as well until the mid 1980s. The US sugar program restricts imports and keeps the domestic price for sugar high, which created a new market for milling corn into HFCS. HFCS is uniquely an American invention that's the result of massive government subsidies for corn and price support for sugar. If the government did not intervene in American sugar markets, cola would…

Canada has no such requirements but even so we still get stuck with pop sweetened with HFCS.

because many corps look at Canada as a just another smaller less profitable part of the US market and simply swap Spanish print for French.

Re: Two conspiracy theories about cola

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Post by ncmncm »

antonzabirko wrote: post #96
ncmncm wrote: post #84

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Apparently you are not aware of the wide range of allergic effects. For myself, I get tiny blisters on the backs of my hands and neck from cranberries. And, onions make my sinuses bleed. Indigestion is more common.

I am indeed, i know allergies vs non-allergies. Consider the reactions people have to fried food. You would bin that all under allergies with your logic.

Allergy is defined as an anomalous auto-immune reaction to an introduced substance. Indigestion from a common foodstuff is a good candidate. You would of course need a medical examination to reliably determine that your particular intolerance is allergy. But that's the way to bet.

Re: Two conspiracy theories about cola

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Post by [deleted] »

dylan604 wrote: post #93
short12 wrote: post #83

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Those warnings sure worked considering childhood obesity of mexico

How many people actually read those warnings? See logo, buy product, consume product. Much like those mandated warnings on tobacco. Guy looks at pack 1 with a warning "May cause cancer", puts it back. Guy looks at pack 2 with a warning "May cause birth defects". Guy decides that's now his brand. (appologies to Bill Hicks)

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