Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
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Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#2Big discussion of the original source (the 173-page antitrust complaint that's referenced in this tweet):
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28975222
A full article on Jedi Blue:
"Google acknowledges it foresaw possibility of probe of 'Jedi Blue' advertising deal with Facebook"
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28975782
A big discussion of an article on "Project NERA":
Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#3Big discussion of the original source (the 173-page antitrust complaint that's referenced in this tweet): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28975222 A full article on Jedi Blue: "Google acknowledges it foresaw possibility of probe of 'Jedi Blue' advertising deal with Facebook" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28975782 A big discussion of an article on "Project NERA": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=289747…
Brilliant ... thanks for the cross-references.
Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#4Hello advertisers. You are being manipulated and abused just like the consumers you are targeting.
There is very little evidence to show that invasive digital advertising is actually effective. When was the last time you clicked on one of these ads and actually made a purchase?
Bad for consumers and bad for advertisers. Why continue with this opaque, profit sucking charade that mainly enriches those selling the ads?
Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#5When can we send the leadership to federal prison instead of slapping them on the wrist with paltry fines?
This has been used to inflate and extort advertising dollars. It has utterly trashed the web, gutted Mozilla, created a corporate tech monoculture controlled by platform giants, and led our social media engagement crisis.
Break up these companies and send the leaders that approved of this to jail.
Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
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Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#7When can we send the leadership to federal prison instead of slapping them on the wrist with paltry fines? This has been used to inflate and extort advertising dollars. It has utterly trashed the web, gutted Mozilla, created a corporate tech monoculture controlled by platform giants, and led our social media engagement crisis. Break up these companies and send the leaders that approved of this to jail.
> When can we send the leadership to federal prison
Yeah, these companies make employees read & sign code-of-conduct, ethics etc. Hell, I was made to attend sessions explaining "values" of the company.
The sheer hypocrisy ... only if execs walk the talk, the world would be a better place
Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#8What can we as people in top 1% with 1) information about big tech abuses 2) skills to fix this do?
Individually we can use browsers like firefox or brave and probably donate time or money to them, but I think it's not enough.
I think we would need something like a movement against those abuses, but probably the biggest win would be a business model that could win with them in the free market.
Is this possible? Has anyone tried something like this?
Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#9When can we send the leadership to federal prison instead of slapping them on the wrist with paltry fines? This has been used to inflate and extort advertising dollars. It has utterly trashed the web, gutted Mozilla, created a corporate tech monoculture controlled by platform giants, and led our social media engagement crisis. Break up these companies and send the leaders that approved of this to jail.
Well, if Starcom and Omnicom actually represented their clients, they would both sue and file criminal charges for fraud.
They don’t. So they won’t. I wonder, to what degree the big agencies are complicit?
If I spent any dollars at all on ads on either Facebook or google I would be filing criminal charges.
Re: Google has a secret deal with FB called “Jedi Blue” that they knew was illegal
#10What can we as people in top 1% with 1) information about big tech abuses 2) skills to fix this do? Individually we can use browsers like firefox or brave and probably donate time or money to them, but I think it's not enough. I think we would need something like a movement against those abuses, but probably the biggest win would be a business model that could win with them in the free market. Is this possible? Has a…
I think more whistleblowers and legal ramifications for C-level execs (prison time preferably since they can happily pay any fine thrown at them) is the only real way to do it at this point.