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YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by krapp »

kyle_martin1 wrote: post #279
krapp wrote: post #226

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>Unless we decide that they do, notwithstanding your declaration. No, they're a private company. "We" don't get to decide what their obligations are.

Oh yes we do. We are the People. Legislation for social media is eventually going to happen.

Sorry... I thought property rights, freedom of speech and freedom of association were inalienable, or at least important. My mistake. I keep forgetting to read the room.

Let me rephrase.. we shouldn't if we care about our principles. But I agree with you, inevitably we will abandon those principles, repeal the First Amendment (which is what such legislation would amount to) and cut off our nose to spite our face. The momentum and fury behind this new Red Scare is just too great to stop at this point.

But, after the dust has settled, the ashes of social media have cooled, the government regulates all speech on the web the way the FCC does television, and you need the resources of a corporation with a legal team just to handle the liability risk of publishing anything, I think we'll live to regret it.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by robbrown451 »

hihihihi1234 wrote: post #235
jollybean wrote: post #186

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It's a pandemic. We're in a Public Health Crisis in which 700 000 people have died. We have medicine to give people which is safe, and almost guarantees they won't die, and material chunk of the population won't believe it, due to information like this. I have 0 problem whatsoever with large, public information clearing houses suppressing anything that is counter factual during the emergency. If they were taking down…

> If they were taking down information about a doctor challenging Health Authorities in a very Scientific manner, that would be something else. YouTube has already done exactly this: https://www.wsj.com/articles/youtube-cancels-the-u-s-senate-...

In that video, Pierre Kory uses his credibility as a medical doctor, to claim "mountains of data have emerged from all, from many centers and countries around the world, showing the miraculous effectiveness of ivermectin. It basically obliterates transmission of this virus. If you take it, you will not get sick."

Later, Pierre Kory himself contracted Covid, from his daughter. Both of them had been on Ivermectin, obviously. He doesn't mention this publicly. Only thanks to someone who was watching closely do we now have proof this even happened.

So no, this isn't "in a very scientific manner." He creates a good illusion of being scientific, but he's not.

These are dangerous falsehoods, that are used by millions as part of their justification for not getting vaccinated, which allows the virus to continue spreading. YouTube isn't perfect, but they are making an attempt to compensate for all the lies that are spread on their platform and others. This is important during a crisis that has already killed 700,000 Americans. I get the "freedom of speech" thing, I really do. But Americans are still dying at a rate of 2 fully loaded 747s a day crashing, and YouTube would prefer not be contributing to that.

So I support YouTube's decision on that one.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by Abroszka »

kyle_martin1 wrote: post #92
gigatexal wrote: post #87

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Silencing people and pretending it’s OK is not going to work. It’s a double edge sword. Because one day they’re going to silence you. The math doesn’t work out long term.

In Europe, in many places it's illegal to deny the holocaust.

Sometimes it's more important to remember what happened than our right to free speech.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by gzer0 »

yesbut wrote: post #289
jfrunyon wrote: post #183

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"Biden said the jab stopped the spread, it was lies. How you WOKE but you haven’t opened your eyes?"

> Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/ If I recall correctly, the Biden administration and the CDC both made public statements telling everyone that they would no longer need to continue wearing masks once they were vaccinated.

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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by OrvalWintermute »

EastOfTruth wrote: post #305
collegeburner wrote: post #48

You want to see worse? Youtube has shadowbanned this song from search: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr_F_XQrukM Search "Let's go brandon" and it should be the number 1 result, it's #23 on trending for music still, it was #1, and it peaked at #1 on itunes hiphop charts for US. But you don't get it unless you search for "let's go brandon song", which makes me think somebody messed with it.

When I search for "Let's go brandon" (no quotes), it is number four in the search results... but with quotes, with or without apostrophe, I'm not sure because I don't see it... went down about 100 results...

yesterday I too had it as a front page result. Now it is a large number of pages down.

Censorbeast hit again.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by gkop »

loonster wrote: post #292
makomk wrote: post #101

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>Biden said the jab stop the spread, it was lies (I remember) Thing is, if I remember rightly Biden did spread outright misinformation that falsely claimed the vaccine was a lot more effective than it actually is using his platform as president, and got checked on it by the BBC (though maybe not the mainstream US media)...

I also remember during the debates Trump was talking up the vaccine and Bidens says something like "And who is going to take it?" It was rather cool to be anti vaccine 1 year ago. Now its verboten.

Boy am I tired of partisan politics.

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Post by DenverCoder99 »

MiguelX413 wrote: post #220
ResearchCode wrote: post #193

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If you have a monopoly and your spy platform is essentially infrastructure then yes, of course it is.

Thank god there's 20 alternatives to YouTube then. Daily reminder to use Peertube and that being able to reach people, centralization, and ad monetization are incompatible with freedom. Use Peertube, you can't have freedom and reach+monetization.

I've grown pessimistic about distributed networks and the Fediverse. The Pareto distribution is this neverending bastard of a phenomena that creeps up into everything we touch.

If a distributed network ends up displacing Youtube, what's going to inevitably happen is one section of the network is going consume the vast majority of the viewership and content, and they're going to start repeating the same shit that Youtube is doing right now.

I'm not saying we shouldn't promote alternatives, but I am saying we haven't really figured out how to properly integrate social media into our society without it disintegrating into what we're seeing now (or worse).

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by DenverCoder99 »

actually_a_dog wrote: post #290
DenverCoder99 wrote: post #270

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How do you know that Youtube is always going to be correct when they take down anything for disinformation?

Who cares? Whatever they take down, they can always put back up.

What would you say if Youtube did that to you?

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by [deleted] »

chroem- wrote: post #286
bmarquez wrote: post #247

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You're probably getting flagged because the parent commentator is quoting the lyrics of the song (in quotation marks), as a response to someone asking what was in the video. Your question should be directed at the creator of the video, not the HN user.

We're posting in a thread discussing why YouTube took down the song. The GP asked for what was objectionable about it. Your comment does not make sense.

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