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“Ah beer. The cause of and the solution to all of life’s problems.” -Homer Simpson
P.S. automatic translation of the song lyrics is quite adequate
Given: They're saying they drink to deal with their symptoms. The symptoms get worse when they drink.
The study concludes: Drinking makes it worse.
But the other option is: Their symptoms would have been even worse without the drinking.
I'm not saying hypothesis is correct, just that the article didn't mention the study addressing it. Unless I missed it.
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How does alcohol make you fat? I don't think I've met a fat alcoholic. Must be something else
Beer alcoholics can be fat, hard liquor not gonna happen.
I've been able to quit all the substances I used to cope; cigarettes, marijuana, alcohol, after a rather depressing realization that in fact none of them made me feel better in the long run. Short term gains at the cost of long term financial physical and mental health. The model I use to think of it is that drugs steal life energy from your future and give it to you in the present. That's the devil's deal you're giv…
Did you replace the substances with other more positive habits?
Alcohol obviously reduces anxiety short-term, because of its effect on GABA signalling.
Alcohol can excarbate anxiety in long-term.
But there is catch - there are therapeutic drugs that have similar effect, benzodiazepines. Benzodiazepines can be misused (and make recovery from anxiety harder) and can be used for therapeutic purposes to improve patient's quality of life.
Obviously, benzodiazepines are more selective (ethanol affects nearly every system in brain), but I would expect that moderate and rare drinking to cope with single stressful event can be moderately beneficial, but drinking to deal with "stressful live" would be heavily detrimental.
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Beer alcoholics can be fat, hard liquor not gonna happen.
whiskey has 70 calories in an ounce, you can absolutely get fat from hard liquor, the only liquor that wont get you fat is the disgusting kind
Chances of getting fat increase if you’re drinking 15-20 beers a day.
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My only beef with drinking is it makes you so fat so fast! I wish I knew it was worse than eating bars of butter and buckets of cooking oil. It doesn't solve problems but stops the pain. Frees you temporarily from thinking and deciding things under the influence of pain. I don't get modern medicine. Grief, loss, loneliness (long term), stress and more mental/emotional ailments are found to be detrimental to human hea…
> makes you so fat so fast I would consider myself a high functioning heavy drinker (but not an alcoholic). I'm also physically fit without weight issues, so I think this is probably more a personal statement.
It's the same reason why a diet high in sugar cause the same problems; as sugar is 50% fructose which is metabolised by the live in the same way as ethanol.
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Beer alcoholics can be fat, hard liquor not gonna happen.
whiskey has 70 calories in an ounce, you can absolutely get fat from hard liquor, the only liquor that wont get you fat is the disgusting kind
I've been able to quit all the substances I used to cope; cigarettes, marijuana, alcohol, after a rather depressing realization that in fact none of them made me feel better in the long run. Short term gains at the cost of long term financial physical and mental health. The model I use to think of it is that drugs steal life energy from your future and give it to you in the present. That's the devil's deal you're giv…
The model I use to think of it is that drugs steal life energy from your future and give it to you in the present.
Part of drinking to cope is dulling the internal self critical monologue. For someone who drinks to cope this includes blocking out the very thought that they ARE drinking to cope. If you are then asked to explicitly think about the choice to drink and how that makes you feel then I would expect exactly the results that the researchers in this study got. "Whenever a participant reported having had an alcoholic drink.…
> For someone who drinks to cope this includes blocking out the very thought that they ARE drinking to cope From Saint-Exupery's Little Prince: “Why are you drinking? - the little prince asked. - In order to forget - replied the drunkard. - To forget what? - inquired the little prince, who was already feeling sorry for him. - To forget that I am ashamed - the drunkard confessed, hanging his head. - Ashamed of what? -…
the drunk isnt just ashamed of his drunkenness, he's ashamed he's not something else entirely, ashamed for all the wishes & dreams he's not. a realler life has past the drunkard by.
to borrow a random quote found a couple comments away, from a german band Die Toten Hosen, "no alcohol is no solution either".