An enormous thread on alleged Google Facebook collusion

rStar wrote: post #3

if we had a functioning government, and if all the rich republicans in california weren’t pretending to be democrats, we wouldn’t have this problem.

If a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass a-hoppin'

Re: An enormous thread on alleged Google Facebook collusion

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Post by willvarfar » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 7:08 AM UTC

I remember when google was the shining light of “be nice company” that we all dreamed of working for, at odds with the evil that was M$crosoft.

And, from reading all the “why I left google” posts and hearing about them leaving China, the old google of 20 or even just 10 years ago was the good or even just a better google.

With how google went from “do no evil” to this, with how Facebook has always been profits over ethics, with how Amazon treats employees generally, etc:

Which employers are the “nice company making nice things and you’ll be able to sleep at night” tech companies nowadays?

Who should we safely not feel bad about wanting to work for?

Re: An enormous thread on alleged Google Facebook collusion

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Post by latchkey » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 7:09 AM UTC

Imagine being paid to write code for all that.

Re: An enormous thread on alleged Google Facebook collusion

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Post by torben-friis » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 7:13 AM UTC

willvarfar wrote: post #5

I remember when google was the shining light of “be nice company” that we all dreamed of working for, at odds with the evil that was M$crosoft. And, from reading all the “why I left google” posts and hearing about them leaving China, the old google of 20 or even just 10 years ago was the good or even just a better google. With how google went from “do no evil” to this, with how Facebook has always been profits over e…

I wonder if the behavior of the largest tech companies is a cause or an effect of their size.

Is unethical behavior pushing companies to the top of the food chain?

Or is it that other companies feel more ethical simply because they don't have as many chances to engage in unethical behavior?

If it's the latter, all the push to split the companies is for nothing and we should just consider "ethics at scale" to be an unsolved problem I guess.

Re: An enormous thread on alleged Google Facebook collusion

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Post by cblconfederate » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 7:21 AM UTC

> Because "we can," executive said in 2016. "Smaller pubs don't have alternative revenue sources."

And 90% of publishers and small websites suffer because of this.

These are more damning than anything that has been said about these companies, because it affects their real business, not the antisocial apps they give for free. Is it even called a monopoly when you control so much of both the Supply and the Demand? It's like a black box telling advertisers "give us your money and we will tell you we did what you think we did".

Re: An enormous thread on alleged Google Facebook collusion

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 7:21 AM UTC

mikeytown2 wrote: post #2

Thread https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1451619916994396164.html

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Re: An enormous thread on alleged Google Facebook collusion

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Post by polytely » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 7:22 AM UTC

Google seriously needs to be broken up into small pieces or disolved entirely. Their leadership just cannot be be trusted and the internet would be better off without them around.