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Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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The world wide web is only 28 years old. We've had computers for 76 years at this point. We're discussing this topic in modern English, but if you look back 500 years William Shakespeare wouldn't be born for another couple of generations: vocabulary and grammar have changed a lot since then, and if you look back a further 500 years (to 1021AD) the "English" spoken in those days was a lot closer to Frisian than anythi…

> Think archival grade materials and ink, then add translations into Mandarin, Arabic, and Spanish . . . I think this is actually wrong. It certainly doesn't hurt to write on fired clay tablets, or to "store" your papyrus documents in an extremely low-humidity environment. That might enable accidental preservation. But at the of the day (or at the end of the millennium), things survive because lots of people care abo…

> to make that web page pertain to something of epochal importance to millions of people

which is a hard task. and irrelevant to the OP's question.

There are many things that people would want to preserve, but is of no importance to the grand scheme of humanity. You're basically saying that unless your works is of such importance that millions of people generations to come would voluntarily preserve it, the works do not deserve preservation.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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What’s the name of the wine, and how can you get some? I’m very curious!

Ha, I didn't expect this to be one of my top rated comments. It is very good wine indeed. It's called Malvasia. https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvas%C3%ADa_(uva) There's a dry and sweet version, I prefer the sweet one. https://cellerdelhospital.cat/producte/malvasia-dolca/ They do ship internationally it seems, this one is the one from the story =) The origin city of the grape variety, which came by ship to my city a…

Thank you for sharing this information. My order is in.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Create nuclear blasts that encode the information in short microbursts. Info will be available in the carbon record and in tree rings around the world .... profit?

At that rate, just make sure it's part of the human genome :)

what if humans go extinct in the next 300 years?

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#686

Print it out on acid-free paper with a stable, acid-free ink. Have it bound as a hardback, and seal it into a waterproof container. Entrust it to one of your children, tell them to keep it in a safe-deposit box and take it out once a year to share with their children, and to pass it on to their children with the same instructions. If you have it electronically, the absolute best case in 500 years is that it will be a…

I see no technical reason for why we can't create some e-reader that will keep your library much safer for much longer than paper. I see no reason why we can't make some that last for a millennium, if the power supply and storage aren't included and it's kept off in some dry place, out of the Sun's light and never overheat. But well, there is no demand for tech that will last for a millennium. In fact, people are pus…

Somebody wrote down their thinking on exactly this subject: http://canonical.org/~kragen/eotf/

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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I was going to say (as if that were the main objection) that the = there was apocryphal, but I had my centuries wrong: Recorde invented it in the mid-16th century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equals_sign#History I wonder when angle braces were introduced?

> apocryphal I think you mean anachronistic there.

Yes, thank you.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#690
permanent.org has a model for blob storage that I really like and think could equally be applied to web hosting: instead of paying monthly for the service you pay a bit more up front just one time and this is put into a nonprofit endowment which is used to fund the storage costs. It may not last for 500 years, but it seems more likely to last quite a bit longer than your basic web host.
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