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Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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post #459

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Maybe a better question is, what would HTML have looked like in the time of Shakespeare? Forsooth!

Haha, reminds me of "If Hemingway Wrote JavaScript" https://www.amazon.com/Hemingway-Wrote-JavaScript-Angus-Crol... which is actually kind of amusing and creative.

I love this!!

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#572
Fantastic question. If our technology we have now is not able to guarantee that whatever is published today is available in 500 years, we must draw the conclusion that it is inferior of what we had 500 years ago that allowed writers to be read 500 years after their deaths.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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post #459

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe a better question is, what would HTML have looked like in the time of Shakespeare? Forsooth!

I’d like to think HTML would have used different notation for syntax e.g. the section sign for open tags and pilcrow for closing: §doth whence="bæc"§ Forsooth! ¶doth¶

And written in secretary hand [1] instead of monospace.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_hand

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#574

Other comments have given ways to physically archive the webpage. Continually hosting it is a much trickier endeavor. Beyond just keeping the servers up, technologies will shift such that eventually html webpages, servers that talk using tcp/ip, datacenters that connect via fiber cables, etc will all be deprecated. That said, if we have a very liberal definition of the word "website" to include any successor technolo…

> Getting that sort of money is quite hard You could start a trust with ~1M in assets and if you avg 8% growth a year (taking into account management fees) you'd have 1B in 90 years just through compounding.

And you're defining "have a million dollars that you don't need to spend for 90 years" as not hard to achieve?

Doable for some, even easy for some, but for the vast majority of people.... very hard.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#575

The world wide web is only 28 years old. We've had computers for 76 years at this point. We're discussing this topic in modern English, but if you look back 500 years William Shakespeare wouldn't be born for another couple of generations: vocabulary and grammar have changed a lot since then, and if you look back a further 500 years (to 1021AD) the "English" spoken in those days was a lot closer to Frisian than anythi…

That assumes language will continue to evolve the same way now as it did 1,000 years ago. Back then everyone couldn't read and people were separated. With mass media that's no longer the case.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#576
post #466

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In where I live, there's a sweet wine made from a grape from greece, which recipe and genetics has been conserved for a few hundred years because one rich guy stated so in his will, so he gave away a building (was an hospital, now a museum), and in exchange, their heirs must recieve 2 boxes of 6 bottles of such wine each year, or otherwise the building lease is off. Something like that might work

What’s the name of the wine, and how can you get some? I’m very curious!

Ha, I didn't expect this to be one of my top rated comments.

It is very good wine indeed. It's called Malvasia.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvas%C3%ADa_(uva)

There's a dry and sweet version, I prefer the sweet one. https://cellerdelhospital.cat/producte/malvasia-dolca/

They do ship internationally it seems, this one is the one from the story =)

The origin city of the grape variety, which came by ship to my city at the time, was monemvasia https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monemvas%C3%ADa

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#577
I think to keep it hosted will require tending to the bitrot. We don’t know how the web and computers will change but we do know they will change.

So a succession of people (or, later, robots) need to be incentivised and resourced to maintain it.

A foundation is one idea. But I quite like a viral clause in your will. So, to inherit, your heir needs to (a) maintain your digital legacy and (b) put an equivalent clause in their will, and so on. Maybe it depends on the value of the inheritance but it might be a way to secure a few generations.

Then you could also stipulate that they should do anything they can to use the resources of their time to further secure the digital legacy. You could also make the responsibility always joint and several across all children / heirs.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#579
Write something extraordinary. Don't worry about the frame, what's your content? Write something so god-damn extraordinary people want to preserve it indefinitely, and will do the hard work for you. You've gotta write something absolutely biblical, fundamentally groundbreaking, revolutionary to the hearts and souls of all humanity.

Good luck!

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