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Re: Hey, Bethesda Let’s settle this

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post #39

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Seein as Bronn won the duel dishonourably by running away until the opponent was tired, does this mean Bethesda will win the match by camping?

How is fighting intelligently "dishonourable"? If you can't beat someone at their own game, force them to play your game.

Honor is always about doing things you don't have to, or not doing things which you could do.

Re: Hey, Bethesda Let’s settle this

#82
post #8

I have no clue who Bethesda is, but if they took him up on the offer it would be great PR in the eyes of gaming(?) consumers. It would show they're cool and don't take themselves too seriously. They'd certainly win cool points from me. Do it, Bethesda.

Bethesda being the company responsible for the Elder Scrolls (Morrowind, Oblivion and now Skyrim, amongst others), and for Fallout3 and Fallout: New Vegas.

They publish fallout, but develop the elderscrolls games themselves.

Re: Hey, Bethesda Let’s settle this

#83
post #24

I don't know anyone who plays The Elder Scrolls but I could see their fanbase calling it "Scrolls" for short. If not for trademark, they could just be trying to protect SERPs: http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=scrolls&tbs=... (query: scrolls) http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=scrolls+game&#38... (query: scrolls game) You can clearly see that "scrolls" pulls up mostly pages about The Elder Scrolls. (You ha…

No one in TES's fanbase calls it "scrolls", we call it TES ("The Elder Scrolls"), because that's what Bethesda calls it, over and over and over again. Or we mention the particular games by name and leave out the series title: Daggerfall, Arena, Skyrim, etc.

That is my experience as well. I've never heard anyone refer to it as just "scrolls."

I have heard all of the things you mention, though (TES, The Elder Scrolls, Daggerfall, etc.), but never ONCE have I heard it called just "scrolls." Ever.

Re: Hey, Bethesda Let’s settle this

#85

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You get a plus for that one. I always like when people provide evidence to back stuff up. To me though, how can someone trademark or copyright a single established word in any language, it just seems ridiculous really. PS: I hope Bethesda takes him up on the offer.

I think Microsoft owns the trademark for the word "Windows". http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/en/us/IntellectualPrope...

For a long time they didn't own the trademark for Excel, having to call it "Microsoft Excel" in all official communication.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Excel#Excel_2.0

Re: Hey, Bethesda Let’s settle this

#86
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You get a plus for that one. I always like when people provide evidence to back stuff up. To me though, how can someone trademark or copyright a single established word in any language, it just seems ridiculous really. PS: I hope Bethesda takes him up on the offer.

How do you feel about "Apple"?

The computer company or the record label?

Re: Hey, Bethesda Let’s settle this

#87

I love this idea, and in a society that prided itself on honor, Bethesda would take him up on it. Unfortunately the law does not promote honorable behavior.

Remember, in Game of Thrones, that Bronn only became Tyrion's champion for the money, not any sense of honor. What if Bethesda finds it easier to hire 3 top Quake 3 players for 1k each to fight Notch and friends? They might find it easier than going through the lawsuit.

Some gamers might want to support the small indie guy and might offer their labour and skills to notch for free. Some might take the money and go help out the big guy. It would be like some medieval power struggle over a throne, with knights and dukes allying themselves to one side or the other. :)

Re: Hey, Bethesda Let’s settle this

#88
The economic factors are totally different here, but still it reminded me of:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2690799

quote:

"See the following paper for an economic analysis of trial by battle:

http://www.law.yale.edu/documents/pdf/Intellectual_Life/LEO....

I particularly liked this quote: "[I]t's reasonable to expect to find a large number of retained legal representatives under a legal system in which people feel that their property rights are constantly threatened by rent-seeking litigiousness or in which rampant rent-seeking opportunity gives them an incentive to behave litigiously themselves. The rarity of retained champions in medieval England therefore suggests that rent seeking under trial by battle wasn't rampant.'"

Re: Hey, Bethesda Let’s settle this

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember, in Game of Thrones, that Bronn only became Tyrion's champion for the money, not any sense of honor. What if Bethesda finds it easier to hire 3 top Quake 3 players for 1k each to fight Notch and friends? They might find it easier than going through the lawsuit.

No need, I'd wager Carmack and friends are plenty good at their own game.

They suck (sic! :) ) badly compared to remotely professional players. Tim Willits even said so himself just recently on Quakecon.

Re: Hey, Bethesda Let’s settle this

#90

I love this idea, and in a society that prided itself on honor, Bethesda would take him up on it. Unfortunately the law does not promote honorable behavior.

Remember, in Game of Thrones, that Bronn only became Tyrion's champion for the money, not any sense of honor. What if Bethesda finds it easier to hire 3 top Quake 3 players for 1k each to fight Notch and friends? They might find it easier than going through the lawsuit.

The top Quake 3 players are probably good friends with - if not even themselves - hopelessly addicted Minecraft players. If this was id Software against Mojang, then maybe id had the leverage but Bethesda is not necessarily considered good by the Q3 community.
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