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Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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> Nationalize key industries and socialize basic services like education and housing. Yeah, hopefully they don't achieve this.

Please don't take HN threads into flamewar, please stop posting flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments, and please don't use HN for ideological battle. All of that is against the site guidelines.

Edit: you've unfortunately been doing this repeatedly. We ban that sort of account, so if you'd please fix this, we'd be grateful.

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Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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Sorry I'm not sure what nonsense you're implying.

Breaking the site guidelines like this will get you banned here, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. You may not feel you owe them better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it.

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Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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Please don't take HN into ideological or (especially not) nationalistic flamewar. Usually when people post like this, they have some personal connection to the country they're flaming. That's a different context than outright prejudice but it still doesn't make it ok to post like this to HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I dont see anything ideological or flamy. This is my experience with living with and among koreans for a very long time.

You may not see anything flamy about "Koreans are the reason for such bullshit culture" but many people on the internet certainly would, and that's what determines flamebait. Please don't post like that to HN. I'm sure you can find other ways to share your experience.

Glib, grand generalizations about large groups of people (such as nations) tend to be provocative in general, so if you want to make such comments you should explicitly scope them to your personal experience. We don't want nationalistic flamewars here, and that's what comments like yours in this thread tend to produce. It's great that it didn't burst into flames in this case, but that just was a lucky break.

Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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The Korean Confederation of Trade Unions are known for their thuggish ways. They frequently resort to violence, harassment and coerce all those that stand in their agenda. within last year, they harassed a manager of delivery logistics company to commit suicide (specified and detailed harassment he faced on his will), cut off fuel valve of a delivery truck for not participating in their strike, and beat up a strike b…

Imagine anger when you live in poverty, you work 9 hours/day (minimum, from workweek in Korea) manual labor, some people at work die or get disabilities in work accidents. As a worker you know that everyone lives from surplus you produce, the food, etc, programmers do not make food. You can only do programming since they made food for you. So as a worker, you know you do something useful, right? So you deiced to talk…

I took a morning (4am-8am) paper delivery gig, and had to "serve" rich people in big mansion, complaining they couldn't have their journal on time for a sweet breakfast coffee because you didn't dare cross a boulevard due to high speed truck driving your ways.. you get angry super fast. I'm a french dude, left leaning.. beheading is big in our history books yet it's the first time I felt that rage against higher classes. Serious shocker.

Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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Sorry I'm not sure what nonsense you're implying.

Breaking the site guidelines like this will get you banned here, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. You may not feel you owe them better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Please can you illuminate me on what rule I actually broke, the OP was implying something about me that was unsubstantiated and in my view clearly nonsense?

Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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Breaking the site guidelines like this will get you banned here, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. You may not feel you owe them better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Please can you illuminate me on what rule I actually broke, the OP was implying something about me that was unsubstantiated and in my view clearly nonsense?

"When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. 'That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3' can be shortened to '1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

"Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine."

"Be kind. Don't be snarky."

Note that if we go to your GP comment and take out the parts that break those guidelines, there's nothing left of it. That's a good clue, actually - it means you probably shouldn't have replied. The parent comment was obviously breaking the site guidelines and should have been flagged and left alone. That's another guideline in fact:

"Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead."

a.k.a. please don't feed the trolls

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Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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I do! But I'm more thinking about the catering companies. And the parties. You know, stuff like that. The way that hundreds or thousands of hours of human lives swirl about their whims. Also, do you really think so little of boat-builders that you don't think they'd turn their hand to something else than building yatchs, that would be good and profitable for all involved?

> do you really think so little of boat-builders that you don't think they'd turn their hand to something else than building yatchs, that would be good and profitable for all involved do you think so little of boat-builders that you want to tell them what they should do with their lives? I imagine if they're building boats it's because they like building boats, and are more than happy that there are obscenely rich pe…

I think you're missing the point. They'd still keep building boats right? Except they wouldn't exclusively serve the ultra wealthy. Because the market wouldn't exist. Because people shouldn't be insanely wealthy. Because that comes at a cost to other people and is entirely a function of social systems, systems that we should make benefit everyone and not just a select few.

Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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A class of people? You mean our democratically elected officials? For all their flaws, I would rather they do something productive with "some" of the resources we're talking about here rather than putting it to use on just another bottle of Dom Perignon. Sure, even that generates economic activity, but there are much better economically multiplying activities that can be invested in.

Well at the point of time when policies are that to the left hard to imagine you will still have elected officials but who knows

Fucking lefties with their big government, wanting to.. stop paying the monarchy for breathing.

Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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Do you? Do you really think you can magically turn raw materials + work needed to build a super yacht into something of global consequence ? Or a Pollock painting will magically turn into a 1000 homes? Or that 1% consumes significantly more food? Most ultra-rich sh*t is immaterial to struggles of regular people. Even if 1%ers consumes extra 300 square meters of real eastate if you divide it across the 99% you will ge…

I'll take the 3 metres, thanks. I hate this kind of framing. People use it all the time. "It only costs 50p per person of the population to maintain the UK Royal Family" ... Pfft, in total there is the potential to do something more significant, more useful, and .... material.

I've heard it called the "Small Change Defense". It's applied, not just to the rich, but to government programs that people complain are wasteful.

Sure, it's only 50 cents. That other program is only a dollar. But if you look at the federal budget, there are a lot of programs. They might each one be small. But add them all together and I get the huge amount I'm going to owe in April.

And even if I just pick, say, 30 of them, I could still take that money and have at least a cheap date with my wife. I'd rather have that than those 30 programs.

Straws are light, the horse said, but that doesn't mean I can carry a billion of them...

Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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Wanted to comment with a snide "QED", then got really sad, because jumping from poor reporting on boat rallies to "never trust the media" feels way too real right now.

Why on earth would anyone “trust” the media or any other group. That’s like believing Facebook has your best interest in mind. Figure out what a group wants to understand how they are spinning story.

I just want to point out that adults in my life did a terrible job of explaining "spin" and perception management to me until I was well into my 20's. People mentioned that sort of thing, or it was mentioned in novels and I always assumed they meant those tabloids in the supermarket, and that the "real media" were a cut above, because on the surface, they A) seemed to report on a truth, B)seemed to at least be willing to go on the record to correct errors. After all, at that point I paid more attention to what people said, and did not quite grasp the whole "communication through not saying" thing.

I'm spending a great deal of time figuring out how to make a game of "spot the hidden subtext" with kiddos. Just to make them hellions down the road.

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