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Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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post #389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The United States government studied this question and came to the conclusion of... acid free paper. So it's now law that "permanent" documents in the US are to be stored on acid free paper: https://www.loc.gov/preservation/resources/rt/perm/permpapr.... Some of us who remember the 5.25" floppy disks, the 3" "floppy" disks, the HUGE Zipdisks, the 5.25" spinning platter drives, the 2.5" spinning platter drives, then t…

Acid free paper is a big improvement, but it's not gonna last 500 years. It's expected to last 200 years. Archival acid-free paper -- paper with cotton added to it -- can last up to 1000 years, but be prepared to pay $2.50 for 1 page[1], so a 400 page book will cost you $1000 for one copy, just for the paper in the book. This type of archival paper might be useful for important contracts or deeds, or legal documents.…

Microfiche can last 500 years. So can engravings in nickel, which can be read with an optical microscope:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD-Rosetta

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#432
Create a virulent sect whose main tenet is to keep the religious scripture (your personal writings) available to as many people as possible.

If you do it right the organisation will self-adjust, recruit new members, gather a tithe from them and keep propagating your writings for thousands of years or more.

There were these folks living in what we now call the middle-east ~3k years ago. Their memetic footprint is still reverberating strong to this day.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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I met a traveller from an antique land, Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand, Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed; And on the pedestal, these words appe…

I'm partial to the remix: https://twitter.com/PateraQuetzaI/status/1156300892733243392... Link to a thread of Percy Shelley's "Ozimandias" in the rhythm of Smash Mouth's All Star

from the twitter thread:

>can somebody give me some context? I'm lost. is this referencing the bible? or an anime?

Not sure if masterful troll or not...

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#434

The world wide web is only 28 years old. We've had computers for 76 years at this point. We're discussing this topic in modern English, but if you look back 500 years William Shakespeare wouldn't be born for another couple of generations: vocabulary and grammar have changed a lot since then, and if you look back a further 500 years (to 1021AD) the "English" spoken in those days was a lot closer to Frisian than anythi…

I would also add the social element - if you want your kids and grandkids to be able to read it, pass custody of the website well before you die (perhaps in a will?) and tell as many friends and family as you can. I know I would happily administer a deceased friend's website until i could no longer myself.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#435

Print it out on acid-free paper with a stable, acid-free ink. Have it bound as a hardback, and seal it into a waterproof container. Entrust it to one of your children, tell them to keep it in a safe-deposit box and take it out once a year to share with their children, and to pass it on to their children with the same instructions. If you have it electronically, the absolute best case in 500 years is that it will be a…

500 years from now, at a grand reconstruction ceremony:

"And there seems to be text scrolling and blinking upon the display surface... never.... gonna... give you up? What do you think it means, Tharl?"

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#436
1. create a trust with a very reputable law firm, that lays out the terms of the service level agreement for the website.

2. Fund the trust in perpetuity with a large enough amount so that the interest is safely more than the cost to run it, including the trust admin fees.

My out-of-the-ass ballpark, you could probably do it for less than $100k.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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post #342

Print it out on acid-free paper with a stable, acid-free ink. Have it bound as a hardback, and seal it into a waterproof container. Entrust it to one of your children, tell them to keep it in a safe-deposit box and take it out once a year to share with their children, and to pass it on to their children with the same instructions. If you have it electronically, the absolute best case in 500 years is that it will be a…

> keep it in a safe-deposit box on a practically non-declining 2000km high orbit where USSR Uranium nuclear reactors are parked.

I think we will clean that stuff up. You have to be pretty sure that humanity is going to suffer societal collapse for hundreds of years in order to put something in an orbit that people will want clear.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#438
Launch an (autonomous?) ROV to the moon. Draw your message into the sand using the tracks of the ROV. Make the message large enough to be seen from Earth with a high powered telescope. Consider using pictograms, so language won't be an issue.

Bonus points: Pay for the mission by agreeing to embed messages from advertisers as well.

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