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Paintmakers are running out of the color blue

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Re: Paintmakers are running out of the color blue

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Post by jazzyjackson »

tetromino_ wrote: post #13
ceejayoz wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Azure, cobalt, sapphire, cerulean, indigo, aquamarine... Most languages probably have quite a few.

Two basic color words for different types of blue. You might think of azure, cobalt, and sapphire as shades of blue. To a Russian speaker, синий and голубой are not shades of each other, they are different basic colors, like blue and green in English. And there is no one color word in Russian encompassing all blues.

just as there is no word in English encompassing all blue-greens

Re: Paintmakers are running out of the color blue

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Post by kowlo »

aazaa wrote: post #16

That website is a catastrophe. The banner on the left prevents the intro text from being read. There's also a banner on the right which is similar in behavior. Neither can be dismissed. Text can't be copied without dragging along useless marketing material. There is no Reader view to nuke the bad design decisions. Strangely, the original story ran on Bloomberg itself, which isn't mentioned in the article. Fortunately…

An amazing display of the modern web: https://imgur.com/a/6a15t0U

Re: Paintmakers are running out of the color blue

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Post by archildress »

oasisbob wrote: post #23

> "There is one basic color tint that is extremely difficult to get" Any idea of the possible tint which is being referred to? Wondering if it's a mineral source requiring mining, heavy-metal processing, or what?

Could be Titanium Dioxide that is involved in whitening. Have seen enough from my view that this would be my guess. And what could be more basic than that. :)

Re: Paintmakers are running out of the color blue

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Post by defanor »

tetromino_ wrote: post #13
ceejayoz wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Azure, cobalt, sapphire, cerulean, indigo, aquamarine... Most languages probably have quite a few.

Two basic color words for different types of blue. You might think of azure, cobalt, and sapphire as shades of blue. To a Russian speaker, синий and голубой are not shades of each other, they are different basic colors, like blue and green in English. And there is no one color word in Russian encompassing all blues.

> To a Russian speaker, синий and голубой are not shades of each other, they are different basic colors, like blue and green in English.

As a native Russian speaker, I always understood "голубой" as a light shade of "синий" (blue), and that's how it's defined in dictionaries [1,2].

[1] https://academic.ru/searchall.php?SWord=%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BB%D...

[2] https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B...

Re: Paintmakers are running out of the color blue

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Post by archildress »

Thank you Toyota and practitioners of "lean" / "Six Sigma" that told us all about the wonders of just-in-time, to only carry exactly as much inventory was needed for demand. After all, we'd rather have that cash in a bank account than tied up in inventory.

While well intentioned, the problem is that it all relies on assumptions, largely tied to demand. And when demand goes through a wild whipsaw, and everyone takes diverging viewpoints of the shape of that whipsaw curve, the highly interdependent chain snaps.

Labor is an issue for sure. But make no mistake, the "restart from COVID" supply chain conundrum owes a lot of its pain to optimizing everything to the hilt, then reacting slowly as the world around us changed.

Re: Paintmakers are running out of the color blue

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Post by xyzelement »

I think the color purple is considered regal because whatever the dye used to be made from (crushed marine life or something like that) was very expensive. So if you had purple, it meant you were rich.

It would be kinda funny if blue things became a sign of wealth because of this.

Re: Paintmakers are running out of the color blue

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Post by LurkingPenguin »

archildress wrote: post #26

Thank you Toyota and practitioners of "lean" / "Six Sigma" that told us all about the wonders of just-in-time, to only carry exactly as much inventory was needed for demand. After all, we'd rather have that cash in a bank account than tied up in inventory. While well intentioned, the problem is that it all relies on assumptions, largely tied to demand. And when demand goes through a wild whipsaw, and everyone takes d…

Toyota actually isn't as JIT as you make it out to be, but that notwithstanding, what's the alternative? Stockpile 30 years' worth of Christmas ornaments in warehouses in Oklahoma, right next to the oil storage?

Re: Paintmakers are running out of the color blue

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Post by jawns »

archildress wrote: post #26

Thank you Toyota and practitioners of "lean" / "Six Sigma" that told us all about the wonders of just-in-time, to only carry exactly as much inventory was needed for demand. After all, we'd rather have that cash in a bank account than tied up in inventory. While well intentioned, the problem is that it all relies on assumptions, largely tied to demand. And when demand goes through a wild whipsaw, and everyone takes d…

I think some companies recognized that it's possible for once-in-a-generation and once-in-a-lifetime disruptive events to occur, but they crunched the numbers and decided that they could squeeze more from lean practices over the long term than they stood to lose in the disruptive events.

Like, suppose you could make $X in profit that is highly resilient to infrequent disruption or twice that with the understanding that every 20 years or so, you're going to have a few bad years because of black swan events. You might determine that you're willing to take your lumps during the chaotic times.

Re: Paintmakers are running out of the color blue

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Post by highland586 »

genghisjahn wrote: post #19
tombert wrote: post #17

This is completely tangential but does anyone who has any real experience with painting done anything with the VR painting apps? I have one called PaintingVR, and I think it's cool, but I have no real experience with physical paints (always opting to use a digital drawing tablet since I was a kid). If anyone has any experience, how do you feel it compares to the real deal?

King Spray on the Oculus Quest is pretty good (cue the multi threaded chain about Oculus requiring a FB login).

I'm really enjoying Kingspray as well. It's really close to spraycan painting, they even got the dripping effect just right.
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