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Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by sasha_at_piki »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #211

Oh happy days :) Spotify recommendations - at least for me - are generally useless. It feels like "here are some palatable suggestions. You might not actually like them but we're confident they're inoffensive (in a not at all interesting sort of way)." Mind you my range of musical styles is wide. But I went 2 or 3 weeks listening to Daily Mixes and heard nothing at all worthy of my attention. I hope Google does simil…

Because assuming you don't like it because you didn't click on it, is too strong an assumption. I'm the creator of Piki, the Cornell Tech app mentioned in the article. Give it a try, if you want next level recommendations https://piki.page.link/Rng5

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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mberning wrote: post #255

I would like to see varying levels of dislike. For me personally there are a wide variety of reasons that I might wish to “dislike” something and with something like Pandora I always have to wonder if the impact of dislinking will be appropriate. Some levels of dislike off the top of my head Hate the whole genre Hate the artist, but not the genre Hate the song, but not the artist And so on and so forth, the same appl…

You make some great points. I'm the creator of Piki, the Cornell Tech app mentioned in the article. Give it a try, if you want next level recommendations that take dislikes into account https://piki.page.link/Rng5

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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user_named wrote: post #578

Spotify already has a button for removing a song from the recommended playlist. I would guess they already use that as the same signal as a dislike button. It's really just a difference in naming.

They don't use removing a song from a playlist as a fundamental input to their algo. I'm the creator of Piki, the Cornell Tech app mentioned in the article. Give it a try, if you want next level recommendations https://piki.page.link/Rng5

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Bluecobra wrote: post #68
blondin wrote: post #8

i am actually impressed to see this come out cornell. i tend to see like and dislike buttons as too simplistic. they greatly reduce why a user would dislike something. i am annoyed at youtube only allowing me to choose from "i didn't like it" or "i have already watched it" for example. i have thousands of other reasons. that's why i don't use dislike buttons.

> i tend to see like and dislike buttons as too simplistic. Same here. I’m still a big fan of star ratings in iTunes, though I’m not sure if they do anything or influence playback. I have a pretty eclectic taste in music and only want to hear certain songs once in a while and I give those songs get three stars. (Sorry Donnie Iris if you are reading this.)

I'm the creator of Piki, the Cornell Tech app mentioned in the article. Give it a try, if you really like rating and being a music critic https://piki.page.link/Rng5

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by sasha_at_piki »

juanitolol wrote: post #163

Spotify does have a dislike button on their recommendation playlists and also, Spotify's recommendations engine is by far the best that have ever been on the market. It managed to discover new artists that I'd have never found unless I lost several dozen hours on Discogs. The important part is to train recommendation playlist accordingly.

I'm the creator of Piki, the Cornell Tech app mentioned in the article. Give it a try, if you want next level recommendations https://piki.page.link/Rng5

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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0898 wrote: post #237

Discover Weekly is remarkably good at suggesting new music. But I’m surprised at how few of my friends use it. It doesn’t seem to be promoted prominently now. It’s a bit like how Steve Jobs proudly demoed Expose in Mac OS X 10.3, but then subsequent versions of the operating system progressively hid it - to the point almost no Mac user knows it exists.

Discover weekly effectively pushed lesser known artists. The major labels, who are important stakeholders, did not like that, so it got less promoted in Spotify. I'm the creator of Piki, the Cornell Tech app mentioned in the article. Give it a try, if you want next level recommendations https://piki.page.link/Rng5

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by raffraffraff »

sasha_at_piki wrote: post #620
raffraffraff wrote: post #411

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last.FM would have worked for you 17 years ago because it did most of that, until they mismanaged it into obscurity.

I'm the creator of Piki, the Cornell Tech app mentioned in the article. Give it a try, it's a more modern version of Last FM, like Tinder for Music https://piki.page.link/Rng5

Hmm. Tinder for Music doesn't sound anything like Last FM. At all. I'll check it out anyway. FWIW the great thing about Last FM was the fact that it tracked your listens on almost any device, linked you with people who listen to similar music, and let you stream "radio stations" based on their collective music libraries.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by raffraffraff »

sasha_at_piki wrote: post #622
raffraffraff wrote: post #404

Last.FM could have been great. Back in 2005 (17 years ago!!) it had a veritable encyclopedia of artists, albums and tracks, a decent recommendations system, "neighborhoods" that matched you with other users who listened to similar artists (and they even told you what you had in common so you other ignore users whose 12 year old also likes the Barbie song). You could add specific users to a 'Friends' section. You coul…

I'm the creator of Piki, the Cornell Tech app mentioned in the article. Give it a try, it's like a modern version of Last FM https://piki.page.link/Rng5

Ah. Are you spamming the comments here to push your app?

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by sasha_at_piki »

omega3 wrote: post #219

I've deleted my Spotify account after noticing that the recommendations algorithm is useless.I don't understand how there can be regression in that regard from soulseek, what.cd network graphs, last.fm or even radio stations. Seriously, how hard is it for Spotify to hire some music heads to put together playlists for people.

If you liked soulseek and lastFM, I think you'll love Piki. I'm the creator of Piki, the Cornell Tech app mentioned in the article. Give it a try, if you want next level recommendations https://piki.page.link/Rng5

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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hammyhavoc wrote: post #213

Fuck Spotify's recommendations. What counts are recommendations from people instead of algorithms. Intent is everything with making a recommendation. If someone I know recommends me x because y, then I know it'll be at least interesting, if not great.

Spotify recommendations come from people (indirectly) since they are based on what people listen to. Piki, the Cornell Tech app mentioned in the article, is based on what others have liked/disliked, so it works better. Give it a try, if you want next level recommendations https://piki.page.link/Rng5
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