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Re: Magit, the magical Git interface (2017)

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Post by infinitezest » Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 2:41 PM UTC

drekipus wrote: post #75

Seeing a co-worker use magic inspired me to try out fugitive on the vim side and I'm actually blown away. So it's excellent in more ways than one. Also inspired me to try out Emacs but that's a longer story

I'm surprised that I had to scroll this far down to find mention of fugitive. I haven't ever used magit but I use fugitive every single day and absolutely love it.

Re: Magit, the magical Git interface (2017)

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Post by amake » Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 2:41 PM UTC

NateEag wrote: post #198

jolmg wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but rather around being selective about crafting self-consistent but single-theme revisions Actually, I think git's got Magit beat on that. Magit might make it easier to stage specific lines, but git can stage specific parts of lines or even changes that are completely different than what's on the worktree, through the editing of diffs with `git add -p`'s `e` option.

Magit has great support for staging parts of lines - select the section you want to stage and press 's'.

> Magit has great support for staging parts of lines

This is news to me.

> select the section you want to stage and press 's'.

It stages line-wise for me. How do I get it to stage less than an entire line?

Re: Magit, the magical Git interface (2017)

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Post by digikata » Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 2:44 PM UTC

jwr wrote: post #162

GlennS wrote: post #144

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Why would I use magit over the git CLI? 1. Discoverability. It'll display the contextually relevant options and commands at most points. By using magit, you're learning the git CLI commands at the same time, including commands that you'd normally never come across without a comprehensive read of the manual or release notes. 2. Fewer keypresses. Also, extra shortcuts for some common operations. 3. The bits that CLIs a…

I think (2) is why I use it, it's just much faster. It doesn't let you skip over understanding Git, it just makes you work faster. I also think that the experiences of: * looking into a stash and applying only selected changes from it, * browsing all your changes and staging only some of them, * quickly killing changes that you simply want to drop, e.g. not commit and remove from your edits are much slower when using…

I tend to avoid using stash in that fine grained way because branches are cheap in git, and you get a rich set of operations using a local branch to stack up unorganized code changes. Rely on stash on only very quick setting aside of work then returning to it. If I stash and find it needs to live longer than that - I’ll stuff it into a named branch.

Re: Magit, the magical Git interface (2017)

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Post by wongarsu » Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 2:45 PM UTC

leephillips wrote: post #186

wongarsu wrote: post #179

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> Explained in man git-revert If git at least had good man pages. The man-page's description is "Given one or more existing commits, revert the changes that the related patches introduce, and record some new commits that record them." [1] I have a hard time parsing that to mean what it's supposed to mean. It contains a note that's much better at explaining what git revert does, then goes on to explain alternatives fo…

“ I have a hard time parsing that to mean what it's supposed to mean.” Can’t disagree. That part could certainly be written better. I’m not saying I would want to learn Git from the man pages, but they’re pretty good in general after learning it elsewhere.

They are decent for reference, and some are genuinely great (like git-everyday [1] or git rebase [2]). But just as often as they are helpful they just leave me scratching my head, either because they are too deep in git-lingo or because they forget to clarify some crucial details

1: https://git-scm.com/docs/giteveryday

2: https://git-scm.com/docs/git-rebase

Re: Magit, the magical Git interface (2017)

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Post by fabianhjr » Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 2:45 PM UTC

jperras wrote: post #196

rashkov wrote: post #192

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Just to clarify, does emacs/magit really pop up when you run "git rebase -i" on the command line? I haven't experienced this, but maybe that's because my EDITOR env var is set to "vim". I would find that very annoying. I like magit, but I never figured out the rebase flow with it, so I just do that on the command line. Where magit really shines for me is being able to stage and unstage hunks of code very easily. Look…

> Just to clarify, does emacs/magit really pop up when you run "git rebase -i" on the command line? I haven't experienced this, but maybe that's because my EDITOR env var is set to "vim". It would only pop up from running `git rebase -i` (or whatever) if your $EDITOR is set to emacs. I'm a heavy emacs/magit user, and even I find the idea of setting my $EDITOR to `emacs` abhorrent.

I have a systemd user emacs service running and set my EDITOR is set to emacsclient so it is really snappy.

Re: Magit, the magical Git interface (2017)

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Post by johnnylambada » Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 2:46 PM UTC

rich_sasha wrote: post #139

matheusmoreira wrote: post #129

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> stash some of my changes, switch branch, cherry pick a commit, switch branch, do an interactive rebase reordering commits and dropping one, pop one of my stashes > working with code becomes a fluent experience, rather than fighting with your tools I also do this regularly, but on my terminal. I don't feel like I'm fighting the git tools. Is this a common experience? I enjoy using git GUIs as well, especially for vi…

What I dislike with git terminal UI is that commands reflect the innards of git, not what the user wants to do. It also forces a deeper understanding of the innards for basic commands than ought to be necessary. Examples where undoing an operation looks totally different to doing it: - To stage a change you `add` it, to unstage you `reset HEAD` - To commit you `commit`, to undo a commit you `reset --hard HEAD^` The l…

Reset is a powerful command that happens to work for the “uncommit” use case. I use reset for a completely different use case: my CI system watches a specific branch for changes and when they occur builds it with a specific configuration. If I reset-push a branch, I get a build of that branch with that configuration.

Re: Magit, the magical Git interface (2017)

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Post by math-dev » Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 2:47 PM UTC

tcoff91 wrote: post #180

bombcar wrote: post #164

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Using git for so long is almost certainly what’s up - you not only know all the various commands but “grew up” with git so you didn’t get them all in a rush. Many many people use git as cvs and are confused once it goes past “commit and push”. I know I don't really know what to do if someone pushed to master whilst I was working and it complains. Usually I just make a new checkout and merge in by hand.

I knew git at a deep level before picking up magit and I can’t disagree more with how you paint magit. Magit is the one and only git GUI that actually aligns with the git CLI and doesn’t present git as just another VCS like perforce. I know immediately what magit is going to actually do when I use it. I could easily do everything in the terminal but I don’t because magit lets me do things so much faster and with fewe…

Perhaps I misread both of you, but I think you are in agreement actually

Re: Magit, the magical Git interface (2017)

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Post by mrtranscendence » Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 2:51 PM UTC

Ohhh. "Magit" like "magic". I've been pronouncing it "maggot" this whole time.

Re: Magit, the magical Git interface (2017)

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Post by gnarbarian » Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 2:52 PM UTC

mrtranscendence wrote: post #209

Ohhh. "Magit" like "magic". I've been pronouncing it "maggot" this whole time.

I like "Maggot" better.