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Re: Reasons to switch from Windows to Linux

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My main reason for running Linux is the Terminal. I'm 35. Began with computers ~10. Spent my first 10 years using Windows, followed by 10 years of the Mac. I'm (hopefully) in my 10-year Linux run?!

Doesn't Windows have a decent terminal nowadays?

And iTerm2 on macOS is a better terminal than any I've come across on Linux. The lack of iTerm2 is actually the reason I daily drive macOS at work instead of Linux in the first place.

Re: Reasons to switch from Windows to Linux

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This kind of attitude from linux users is significantly responsible for its lack of wider adoption. Who wants to learn something new when the people you need help from are going to treat you like a moron? We both know its more involved than clicking a different icon.

No, he's right. It's like maths. A vast majority of people like to not like / learn it. I've spent a lot of time with average users of all kinds. They couldn't care less. To them it's a thing that has less value than a coffee cup. I could, and would sit down and explain to them everything that is cool, cute about every layers of a computer, with simple language and pragmatic use, with history context, and bits of ben…

No, he's not right. A computer is a tool. A tool should help you accomplish tasks. A well-designed tool that is meant to be used in the average household should be easy to use and hard to screw up. It shouldn't feel like it's getting in the way.

There's no reason why anyone should need to know the details of how a computer works to use the computer. The history you're so eager to tell should just be trivia.

Re: Reasons to switch from Windows to Linux

#133

As someone with RSI who uses speech recognition to control most software on my desktop, X11 -> Wayland has been a massive roadblock. Ad-infested Windows isn’t great, but at least it doesn’t feel like I’m fighting any devs just to be able to use my computer in an accessible manner.

What speech recognition system did you use on Linux? I'm interested in using speech recognition more after getting used to it on iOS devices (where it works amazingly well).

I had the most success using Dragonfly with the Kaldi engine, which handles the heavy lifting of speech recognition and provides a nice API on top of xdotool for desktop interaction. You can also check out Talon, although I think its Linux support is still somewhat experimental.

Re: Reasons to switch from Windows to Linux

#134

As a counterpoint: Reasons to consider NOT switching to Linux https://corn.codeberg.page/notlinux.html

My only two reasons would be no Photoshop and fewer games, though it's definitely catching up on both.

Unfortunately it is not catching up by the way of 1st party support. The compatibility layers are getting pretty good, don't get me wrong. But if to you a computer is just a tool that runs specific programs you need, then you should probably stick with what the software developer recommends you run their software on.

Re: Reasons to switch from Windows to Linux

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Performance No telemetry No forced upgrades No intrusive ads

I'm out of the loop - are there intrusive ads in the Windows OS? If so, what kind of ads and when/where?

In my experience, ads appeared in the start menu as well as ad notifications on occasion. I removed the ads from the start menu but after an update some of them seemed to return. Similar experience with the ads in the notifications tab. Although a minor experience to re-disable the ads, it was enough to get me to switch. I paid good money for windows, only to get MORE ads than the free alternative

Re: Reasons to switch from Windows to Linux

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Well he is right. Linux is not for everyone. It's for people who can learn how to double click an icon that looks different from the one in Windows. That excludes probably 50% of Windows users right there.

This kind of attitude from linux users is significantly responsible for its lack of wider adoption. Who wants to learn something new when the people you need help from are going to treat you like a moron? We both know its more involved than clicking a different icon.

It's quite easy to be smug when dispensing advice to a random internet recipient behind the wall of anonymity. It's much more so when someone comes to you, in person, asking for help.

I spent the better part of an hour this week helping a family friend over Zoom, trying to help her digitally sign a document. Her browser's PDF viewer couldn't render the form input boxes, so I had to help her download Adobe Acrobat Reader (yuck, I know, but, I'm not going to argue with her employer about alternatives). She's not dull by any stretch--she has a PhD. Just unfamiliar with the process. And when you see the process through fresh eyes, you get the sense that, oh, maybe this actually isn't intuitive at all if you've never done it before.

I don't know why so much of the Linux community lacks that feeling of empathy. Perhaps because their journey through Linux was a giant hazing ritual, and they feel like they've earned the right to haze the next generation? I have no idea.

Re: Reasons to switch from Windows to Linux

#137
post #75

Yet another one of thoses guides. When XP came out everyone was going to go GNU/Linux, due to Toy'R us interface. When Vista came out everyone was going to go GNU/Linux, due to DX 10 drivers and hardware requirements. When 8.x came out everyone was going to go GNU/Linux, due to tablet UI. When 10 came out everyone was going to go GNU/Linux, due to telemetry. Now Windows 11 came out, naturally everyone is going to go…

Yet another one of these comments.

When XP came out, people were switching to Linux.

When Vista came out, people were switching to Linux.

When 8.x came out, people were switching to Linux.

When 10 came out, people were switching to Linux.

Now Windows 11 came out, naturally people are still switching to Linux.

Guess what? People are going to continue switching platforms and talking about it.

Oh and 25% of developers are generally running Linux, 25-30% are on a Mac and about 40-45% are on Windows...and Windows usage is trending downwards year after year. [0]

[0] https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#section-most-...

Re: Reasons to switch from Windows to Linux

#138

I really like the Unix philosophy. And even if Linux it is not exactly Unix, it kind of shares the same philosophy. I tried very much to like Linux and to use it on the desktop. In the last 20 years I've tried countless times to use it as a desktop. But it always failed. It always reqyired lots of time for configuration as opposed to "it just works". After some time, it always broke something, which required again ti…

Alot of what you wrote is true for MacOS and Windows and other major operating systems. Linux doesn't want you either.

Re: Reasons to switch from Windows to Linux

#139

The first point I think is one of the main arguments. I've been using Ubuntu on a computer I bought in 2007. Worked like a charm (until the PSU blew up a few months back). Linux is a system that outlast its hardware! One can also turn the argument around. What would be the reason to use Windows instead of Linux (if, like most of the people on HN I assume, you are computer literate) ? Games I guess.

Not having to worry that upgrading one app will break things for other apps.

Safe screen locking.

Not having to spend hours getting hardware working properly but unreliably.

Not having to deal with audio issues when you want sound from multiple apps.

A responsive interface that doesn't feel like a clunky children's toy from the early 2000s.

Re: Reasons to switch from Windows to Linux

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If someone asked me 20 years ago, I would have predicted that in the next 20 years we will have another OS paradigm. One that will actively help you accomplish your tasks. Not only the OS should not stand in your way, but it should help you find information in an instant, it should help you at tedious tasks, it should provide a framework for programs to exchange and process information. And by that framework I don't mean an Unix pipe or a Unix socket. I want a simple visual way to connect software which should do a lot of complex transformations.

Of course I've failed with predictions. We got a bit more polished UX and UI and that's it. No change of philosophy, no major breakthrough in the way we interact with computers.

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