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Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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> Nationalize key industries and socialize basic services like education and housing. Yeah, hopefully they don't achieve this.

Why? Some forms of this work pretty well in lots of countries, it doesn't in others. As with all its in the details but straight out saying no is just ignorant.

Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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post #4

> Nationalize key industries and socialize basic services like education and housing. Yeah, hopefully they don't achieve this.

Why? Some forms of this work pretty well in lots of countries, it doesn't in others. As with all its in the details but straight out saying no is just ignorant.

Where did it work pretty well?

Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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post #4

> Nationalize key industries and socialize basic services like education and housing. Yeah, hopefully they don't achieve this.

Why? Some forms of this work pretty well in lots of countries, it doesn't in others. As with all its in the details but straight out saying no is just ignorant.

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Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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> Nationalize key industries and socialize basic services like education and housing. Yeah, hopefully they don't achieve this.

In some countries with absurdly high house prices, I think some level of nationalisation of housing is an eventual inevitability. Much like Seoul, places like Sydney are so expensive that unless you already own a house, or are eventually going to inherit one, no amount of hard work or education can reliably get you into the market.

Entry level prices within 25 miles of the city are around A$1.5m for a detached house, and apartments are predominantly 1 or 2 bedrooms and poorly built, so not really suitable for families. Many people suggest ‘moving west’ to the new suburbs being built, but even 30-40 miles out the prices are still around a million dollars. Given an average full time wage in the range of $50k, saving a deposit after rent is almost impossible. Not totally impossible, but very close to…

Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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> Nationalize key industries and socialize basic services like education and housing. Yeah, hopefully they don't achieve this.

I agree this would be a bad turn. In the US, it is frustrating to see the poor results produced by the public education system and teacher unions, particularly for K-12 education. The lack of competition and union power has led to an empty incentive structure, where teacher unions regularly oppose having their outcomes measured and don't fear needing to compete with better teachers or schools. Beyond that, organizations like the NEA (the largest teacher union and also largest union in the US) are increasingly political and inject their (far left) activism into the schooling system as a means to indoctrinate the next generation. Choice is critical in things like education, and being forced to pay taxes to prop up a one-size-fits-all government-mandated choice is unethical because it is plainly bad for students and society.

Re: Half a million South Korean workers walk off jobs in general strike

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post #4

> Nationalize key industries and socialize basic services like education and housing. Yeah, hopefully they don't achieve this.

Why? Some forms of this work pretty well in lots of countries, it doesn't in others. As with all its in the details but straight out saying no is just ignorant.

I'm not aware of anywhere that attempts to socialise housing has worked well. As a teacher and someone who has been a student I'm also extremely hesitant to say that the way education is usually provided [1] counts as working well, whether you're looking at purely economic returns on investment or human flourishing.

[1] Not a knock on government provision in this case as demand for education with any real freedom seems to be extremely limited

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