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Banks, gangsters and the strange resurgence of cash

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Re: Banks, gangsters and the strange resurgence of cash

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If you don’t get paid interest at a bank, and no brokerage is going to take you on (or you don’t trust them), then what else are your options?

I mean isn't that the reason preppers love gold/silver bullion?

Yup, though the minimum ‘buy in’ per unit without getting raked over the coals with high spread products is too high for many people. If you’re trying to set aside $20/wk, silver is terrible and good luck with Gold.

Re: Banks, gangsters and the strange resurgence of cash

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The precautionary savings of physical cash may even be on the rise as people realize how easily their economic lives could be switched off in an instant in the increasingly digital world, whether by being intentionally targeted or accidentally disabled with a lot of bureaucracy slowing down the correction. Having enough cash under your mattress that authority figures can't easily take from you is a psychological comf…

Physical cash that buys less and less with each passing day is not as useful, though.

Place in a fire/water resistant bag 90% cash, 10% Bitcoin.

In the event of hyperinflation the Bitcoin will hopefully gain (or at least preserve value)-- and it can be transferred online, which the cash cannot. (And in the event of a total bitcoin collapse you still have 90%). Re-balance it once a year or so.

It doesn't take much to make missing out on the 0.5% interest rate of a high rate savings account into not much of a problem.

Re: Banks, gangsters and the strange resurgence of cash

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The precautionary savings of physical cash may even be on the rise as people realize how easily their economic lives could be switched off in an instant in the increasingly digital world, whether by being intentionally targeted or accidentally disabled with a lot of bureaucracy slowing down the correction. Having enough cash under your mattress that authority figures can't easily take from you is a psychological comf…

Pseudo-relevant anecdote: I wanted to buy a used car a few months ago off someone on Facebook. We were meeting up same day so the easiest method seemed to be cash. I went to the bank to withdraw $7000 and was informed, much to my surprise, that it is impossible to withdraw more than $3000 without 48 hours notice. Suffice it to say, I've been seriously considering the tradeoffs of hoarding cash under my mattress.

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Re: Banks, gangsters and the strange resurgence of cash

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post #16

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Physical cash that buys less and less with each passing day is not as useful, though.

If you don’t get paid interest at a bank, and no brokerage is going to take you on (or you don’t trust them), then what else are your options?

bitcoin

Re: Banks, gangsters and the strange resurgence of cash

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The precautionary savings of physical cash may even be on the rise as people realize how easily their economic lives could be switched off in an instant in the increasingly digital world, whether by being intentionally targeted or accidentally disabled with a lot of bureaucracy slowing down the correction. Having enough cash under your mattress that authority figures can't easily take from you is a psychological comf…

But there is also a record level of natural disasters in term of flood and fire. I wonder if an unusual level of cash was destroyed

Fire/water proof safes aren't terribly expense.

Also, safe deposit boxes are an option, which have different security tradeoffs from a safe in your home.

Re: Banks, gangsters and the strange resurgence of cash

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The precautionary savings of physical cash may even be on the rise as people realize how easily their economic lives could be switched off in an instant in the increasingly digital world, whether by being intentionally targeted or accidentally disabled with a lot of bureaucracy slowing down the correction. Having enough cash under your mattress that authority figures can't easily take from you is a psychological comf…

Pseudo-relevant anecdote: I wanted to buy a used car a few months ago off someone on Facebook. We were meeting up same day so the easiest method seemed to be cash. I went to the bank to withdraw $7000 and was informed, much to my surprise, that it is impossible to withdraw more than $3000 without 48 hours notice. Suffice it to say, I've been seriously considering the tradeoffs of hoarding cash under my mattress.

You're not that many steps away from being a gold bug or a bitcoin hodler.

Re: Banks, gangsters and the strange resurgence of cash

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Physical cash that buys less and less with each passing day is not as useful, though.

Place in a fire/water resistant bag 90% cash, 10% Bitcoin. In the event of hyperinflation the Bitcoin will hopefully gain (or at least preserve value)-- and it can be transferred online, which the cash cannot. (And in the event of a total bitcoin collapse you still have 90%). Re-balance it once a year or so. It doesn't take much to make missing out on the 0.5% interest rate of a high rate savings account into not muc…

And bitcoin ATMs that spit out cash are becoming more common if you've been cut off from using traditional banking services and need physical cash, even if the spreads they offer are currently exorbitant.

Re: Banks, gangsters and the strange resurgence of cash

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Physical cash that buys less and less with each passing day is not as useful, though.

If you don’t get paid interest at a bank, and no brokerage is going to take you on (or you don’t trust them), then what else are your options?

If one truly doesn't need it for day to day expenses and just saving (assuming its at least over $200), one can: buy some btc at a walmart coinstar kiosk[0] with the cash (or any other cash for bitcoin methods that has been around since ~2009), sell it for eth with bisq network[1], bridge it to avalanche[2] for weth.e and sell for dai.e (decentralized overcollateralized stablecoin to the $) and at least 1 avax (for future gas costs, you can get away with holding less if one watches the fees), and put the dai.e in yieldyak benqi farm[3] (decentralized non custodial overcollateralized protocol) for over %20 APY in dai.e?

Might loose a bit to fees getting it on chain(s) (though less than intl money transfers if one is used to that), but should make it back pretty quickly.

[0] https://www.reuters.com/business/walmart-allowing-some-shopp...

[1] https://github.com/bisq-network/bisq

[2] https://bridge.avax.network/

[3] https://yieldyak.com/farms?platform=benqi

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