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Re: Show HN: I built a website builder on top of Notion

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I think it's more for existing Notion users that may wish to have a tiny microsite about something. Someone already invested in Notion isn't going to care about self-hosting.

A tiny microsite for $120/year tho.

A microsite with a cms that is neatly integrated with a produce that charges that much per user - sign me up!

Re: Show HN: I built a website builder on top of Notion

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A tiny microsite for $120/year tho.

As opposed to what? Hosting your own server for $120/yr in electricity, but with hardware costs on top?

Likely a digital ocean droplet, or other vps for $5-10 per month. Except neither of those Integrate with notion.

Re: Show HN: I built a website builder on top of Notion

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notion websites are so slow. Google's page speed for your home page has a score of 42. Why does it say "fast page speed" and "great seo"? This [1] demo scores 81 and this[2] has a 68. [0] - https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=... [1] - https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=... [2] - https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=...

To be honest, 42 isn't actually that bad. PageSpeed Insights scores are incredibly strict (that's a good thing) and not at all linear with visitor perception of loading speed. news.ycombinator.com has a 100 score, but if you compare the actual "Lab Data" it's not a massive difference. First Contentful Paint: news.ycombinator.com: 1.3s, potion.so: 2.7s The biggest difference is Time to Interactive: news.ycombinator.co…

Why isn't it that bad? It's in the lowest category of scores.

Re: Show HN: I built a website builder on top of Notion

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The author Noah is using this for promotion while making fun of HN commenters https://twitter.com/noahwbragg/status/1451308730994212869 Maybe Show HN mosts need more guardrails to prevent shameless promotion. Producthunt is better suited for this.

I’m not sure that you can consider his tweet “making fun”, when it just references comments that others have in fact made.

Re: Show HN: I built a website builder on top of Notion

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As opposed to what? Hosting your own server for $120/yr in electricity, but with hardware costs on top?

Likely a digital ocean droplet, or other vps for $5-10 per month. Except neither of those Integrate with notion.

10$/month is 120$/year. Plus you have to do more work on top of that to actually build the site and integrate with a CMS.

Re: Show HN: I built a website builder on top of Notion

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The beauty of the web is that you can take something and then make something else out of it. I love that. Potion has pricing though. And I'm not gonna pay, because I don't know what the setup is - am I paying for Potion to run a Notion account with my stuff in, and then they layer on top? Or are they reselling part of their own account? Or do I need to pay for a Notion account also?

It's built on top of Notion, so you pay for Notion and you pay for Potion as well. :-) Actually it's a bit funny because Potion is 2.5x more expensive than the Personal plan on Notion, even though the utility of Potion is provably smaller.

Isn't it because of scaling? The bigger a service becomes with a large audience, the cheaper they can sell things for.

Re: Show HN: I built a website builder on top of Notion

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Hey Noah nice to see you here! Glad I could contribute even a small amount (the Savvy Portfolio template) to this awesome project.

To the people here wondering how does this compare to Squarespace and Wix: it does not. This is for Notion users who want to publish a website while using Notion.

Re: Show HN: I built a website builder on top of Notion

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The author Noah is using this for promotion while making fun of HN commenters https://twitter.com/noahwbragg/status/1451308730994212869 Maybe Show HN mosts need more guardrails to prevent shameless promotion. Producthunt is better suited for this.

The question about pricing is pretty legit given a free Wix or similar would probably be a better experience than jumping across Notion and Potion.

It's not "hackers are going to hack it for free", it's more "your grandma is making a website on Wix for free" and, it won't make you feel like a tech wiz or a startup cool kid, but it works.

That's also why I think Potion (and other startups targeting Notion and the incoming Notion marketplce) is pure business genius. I'm sure the target market will appreciate Potion. I had to try Notion for work and it's definitely not for me (slow and clunky) - but somehow they have a lot of evangelist in SF startups and I'm sure they won't care about paying 1 pumpkin spice latte per month just to say they made a website with Notion.

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