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Android Apps on Windows 11

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Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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Most interesting thing about this is the use of Amazon Appstore. It's like Microsoft is acquiescing by not trying to build yet another app store (even an Android store) and lure developers and support costs along the way. MS is probably aware that Amazon could see this as a backdoor into Windows software licensing too.

I think that it has more do with Microsoft not wanting to build their own replacement for "Google Play Services" just yet. Amazon has a decade or so investment in their alternative to "Google Play Services".

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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Microsoft already sells an Android "phone" https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-duo

Surprised with this they didn't do like Amazon and make a ms version of android

They probably have a decent estimate of the investment cost it would take to compete with "Google Play Services". Seems a big part of why they are working with Amazon for this Windows support.

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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I bet you Microsoft teams on android takes less memory than the bloated electron based desktop version.

You’re not understanding my point, VMs will never have native performance as long as there is a a pass through layer.Running a apt-update on wsl2 is much much slower than running apt-update on my ubuntu laptop.

It doesn't need to. The apps simply need to be executing a fraction of the instruction set to be more performant.

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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You’re not understanding my point, VMs will never have native performance as long as there is a a pass through layer.Running a apt-update on wsl2 is much much slower than running apt-update on my ubuntu laptop.

It doesn't need to. The apps simply need to be executing a fraction of the instruction set to be more performant.

Its not like MS had changed how Android works.

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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My wife and kids touch their screens all the time. I often reach over my wife's shoulder and tap a button or something on the screen rather than reaching for the trackpad. It may not be that useful for your particular use case but that doesn't mean it's not useful for others.

I do agree that the quality of the experience also matters. Dell touchscreen was complete shit. Especially when I was used to iPads.

I agree! I yet have to see a touchpad as good as Apple's, for example!

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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This is a good tech demo but feature wise pretty useless. Windows 8 and the UWP mess already proved that people don't want "apps" on their PCs. I can't think of a single Android app that I would use on my desktop or laptop right now.

Those flashlight apps that siphoned all your contacts were decent though.

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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Is this a good move for Microsoft? It feels like what IBM tried with OS/2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2#Windows_3.x_compatibility IBM created a Windows compatibility layer. However, that meant that developers saw that they could write their programs once for Windows and OS/2 users would be able to use the programs. The reverse wouldn't be true. So there was little incentive to create native apps for OS/2 compar…

Nitpick: it wasn't a compatibility layer. It was actually Windows 3.1 running in DOS. There was no emulation.

Ah, win.exe I seem to remember.

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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Explain how "Microsoft puts a DirectX in WSL" stops you from running Linux in future? Because it really doesn't seem like it will affect you or what you can do in any way at all.

1. MS adds directx to WSL 2. People write "Linux" apps that require directx 3. Linux technically stays an option but is unable to run apps without NT underneath, and nobody writes plain Linux apps because of market effects Weak because people could still write apps for just Linux, plausible because convincing people to divert effort to the MS way would work and is classic EEE.

Your use of "extinguish" describes a situation where you can use exactly what you have now, in exactly the way you're doing now? And the terrible thing which "extinguish" means to you is "future people who might have given me free stuff might not, and it will be Microsoft's fault"? And not only that, but the way MS will "convince people to divert effort" is by making something people want more? And that is somehow terribly unfair?

From Wikipedia:

> "Extinguish: When extensions become a de facto standard because of their dominant market share, they marginalize competitors that do not or cannot support the new extensions." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...

The current world is that there are programs written for Linux distributions with certain subsystems (audio, window manager, systemd, etc) which don't work on other distributions without those subsystems. People who ignore binary blob video card drivers, etc. A Microsoft Ubuntu with DirectX that only runs in WSL would be just another thing like that. It would be practically no different to "macOS is UNIX but you can't run all macOS programs on other Unixes" which hasn't extinguished Linux or Unix.

Even moreso when people who want to write for DirectX can do so for Windows. Why would those people target DirectX on Linux which only runs on WSL? And if it doesn't only run on WSL, let's say DirectX on Linux works on any Ubuntu and Valve use it for Steam and gaming on Linux becomes massively popular by targetting DirectX for video ... how do you then connect to "nobody writes plain Linux apps because 3D games are an option" and from there to "and now despite being massively more popular, Linux is extinguished and this is bad because even though I can run literally any other distribution and write and run my own software and all previous software, I can no longer be bothered to and that's both bad and Microsoft's fault"?

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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Those are just normal Windows 11 requirements, related to TPM and other hardware features.

Scroll down. > Windows Subsystem for Android™ You can install Windows 11 on lower requirements. But you might not be able to run Android apps.

It works here on 4gb RAM device. But it will show warning that it may no run well on lower than 8gb RAM devices.
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