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Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

nerdponx wrote: post #369
thesagan wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This divisive rhetoric is what got us here in the first place; a breakdown in civil communication. The blue team mimics the red team in this respect. I wish we could have a more mature dialogue but I wonder if we're past that. Violent communication is normalizing.

This has been "red team" strategy for a long time. Be insufferably stubborn and immoral, force the "blue team" to talk and talk and talk until they stop making sense or get frustrated, then point out how incoherent/irrational/emotional the blue team is and declare victory.

The "blue team" cooling is long overdue for sure.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by RobRivera »

charonn0 wrote: post #134
sillysaurusx wrote: post #99

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Please don't make this a partisan issue. I live in Missouri. I've voted for Republicans in the past. You're alienating people like me from being on your side. It doesn't matter that you're probably right. It comes across as you posting this to make yourself feel good, and holy moly the sense of superiority from your camp needs a chill pill. Parson is evil. I'll be doing my duty as a citizen and trying to vote him out…

> You're alienating people like me from being on your side. On one side are the computer scientists and engineers who understand the nature of the problem. On the other side are ignorant and/or dishonest actors out to avoid being embarrassed. It's all on you if you pick the wrong one out of loyalty to a political party.

sigh

Kansas City native here.

I vote democratic and agree with the comment you are replying to.

there is one data point that this isnt a partisan issue, but a rather non-partisan one involving an elected official.

Go Tom Brady, give the Buccs another win and put some dirt in Maholmes' eye.

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Post by gremIin »

ModernMech wrote: post #232
gremIin wrote: post #66

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It's the southern strategy at work. It's not about what is true or what is morally right. It's about not letting *the other team* get any wins. This is why they needed to pretend COVID wasn't a big deal, because otherwise you are admitting that *the other team* was right.

That’s not what the southern strategy was. It was a cynical ploy by Republicans to court racist Democratic voters in the south who were unhappy with the civil rights bill. It worked and they switched to the Republican party, which realigned the ideological tilt of American politics. Not letting the other team get any wins will be known as The McConnell Strategy in the history books, as he has practiced a policy of co…

That's not completely true. For example, the rationale behind the war on drugs (Nixon era and revived by Reagan, long before McConnell) was not about truth or moral virtue.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by dang »

unsui wrote: post #306
thesagan wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This divisive rhetoric is what got us here in the first place; a breakdown in civil communication. The blue team mimics the red team in this respect. I wish we could have a more mature dialogue but I wonder if we're past that. Violent communication is normalizing.

> This divisive rhetoric is what got us here in the first place What you're doing is called "pearl clutching", and is not adding in any constructive way to the conversation. The way we got here is intentionally by using divisive rhetoric to ellicit "engagement". Traditionally, this has been used politically by identifying wedge issues with the explicit intention to divide people along belief borders. This has been ac…

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Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by shiftpgdn »

bavent wrote: post #368
lancemurdock wrote: post #321

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All fair points on the money printing parts. I am well aware Trump printed trillions as well. I wasn't a fan then and not now. state laws != federal laws. I am pro-choice but I think allowing states to make decisions for their own is good and the system is working as intended. I want states to have more freedom to legislate what their constituents want than a giant federal government making decisions for the whole na…

You will get taxed 50% on the amount you make over X is what you mean, not that your total tax rate will be 50% - if that were actually the case. The top bracket is $400k for an individual and the Build Back Better or whatever it’s called act proposes to raise that tax rate to 39.6% I believe. I’m curious where you’re getting 50% from. Vaccine mandates are a pretty normal requirement at a lot of places. I worked in h…

I think he may be combining state and local tax in the 50%. Which is fair.

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Post by teachrdan »

inside65 wrote: post #196
teachrdan wrote: post #101

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> barely breaks even in terms of lifetime earnings If you have any evidence to support this, I invite you to post it. Because according to the study below: "Getting a Bachelor's degree adds another large increase in lifetime earnings. With median earnings of $56,700 ($27.26 per hour), or $2.3 million over a lifetime, Bachelor's degree holders earn 31 percent more than workers with an Associate's degree and 74 percent…

I don't like how you presented your argument. You make it sound like trade schools, with real practical skills like plumbing, involve neither learning nor growing. Similarly, critical thinking should be learned long before college age. If you're learning that during college, you've got a very late start. Maybe that's not what you meant, but that's pretty much what you've written.

By definition, a trade school is designed to teach people a trade, not what lies outside it. A liberal arts education (which OP was clearly referring to) exists to teach people about a variety of different things.

This might sound like I'm biased against the trades. I'm not! I think they're crucial, and I, along with about half the software engineers I know, often daydream about becoming a fine carpenter.

I'm also not biased against trade schools in particular. They provide an important service and are a pipeline to good union jobs. The criticisms I make at the top of this comment apply equally to students who go to a top music program like Juilliard or the Oberlin conservatory, as those graduates will tell you themselves. They go to learn music, not to broaden their horizons.

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Post by TheCondor »

jonathanwallace wrote: post #144

I served in the Georgia legislature during a portion of a similar story. Without a doubt, the calculations throughout the story were political not technical. In the Georgia version, the technical details of the exposed information in the Secretary of State's office were facepalmingly simple (misconfigured apache directives) yet the story dragged on politically for years. Quickly, a hired security researcher for a cor…

Thank you for your service.

The other giant thread here made it more directly partisan, this just sounds crazy though. On what rational grounds do you attempt to prosecute or make such things illegal? Is it simply trying to save immediate expenditure of money in a myopic fashion? Or is it more akin to they don't believe it's the state's responsibility to put that data online in the first place so f-it-all-to-hell and everything around it? My constituents don't understand this so I'm just going to oppose my opponents actions, regardless?

In your opinion, is there a way to fix this sort of thing? It feels like we're watching it writ large with the January 6 committee.

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Post by [deleted] »

dvt wrote: post #396
carlisle_ wrote: post #188

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This is called “whataboutism”.

"Whataboutism" is an informal fallacy that most non-technical folks (as in, not logicians) mis-invoke, like almost all other informal fallacies. My argument is not even remotely whataboutism. In fact, it can be even formulated without addressing the "other side" at all: you're making a category error by going from general (party trends) to particular (individual voters). It's simply a bad argument. I only brought up…

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