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Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Please don't make this a partisan issue. I live in Missouri. I've voted for Republicans in the past. You're alienating people like me from being on your side. It doesn't matter that you're probably right. It comes across as you posting this to make yourself feel good, and holy moly the sense of superiority from your camp needs a chill pill. Parson is evil. I'll be doing my duty as a citizen and trying to vote him out…

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Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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I'll risk making this a partisan issue and say the anti-intellectual and anti-science bent seems increasingly prevalent among Republicans like Mike Parson and their constituencies. One of the most shocking statistics I've seen recently is the Pew poll which shows that in the space of 2 years Republican attitudes about higher education saw a 20-point swing such that that most Republican voters now believe college is n…

Please do not take HN threads into flamewar, including partisan flamewar. We got intense flamewar hell as a direct result of what you posted, and that's not what this site is for—regardless of how wrong other people are or you feel they are.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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I find the article title kind of curious, given that it states Parson has "doubled down" which suggests that the video the article references is an active effort on Parson's part. It then goes on to state that the video was produced by a PAC Parson created but doesn't give direct input to. Comes off as unnecessarily inflammatory to me I suppose. Having said that, this situation in particular really tests my willingne…

This situation is keeping his name in the spotlight, and people will, in general, be more likely to vote for names that they recognize. I don't believe that there is any other reason here.

Its standard GOP politics we've seen for the last 4 years. Use the legal system to bully people not to make you look incompetent. This is unique because he's using the criminal system and not the civil courts. How many people did Obama sue in office? Compare that to Trump who's gone after family members, the media, etc.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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I'll risk making this a partisan issue and say the anti-intellectual and anti-science bent seems increasingly prevalent among Republicans like Mike Parson and their constituencies. One of the most shocking statistics I've seen recently is the Pew poll which shows that in the space of 2 years Republican attitudes about higher education saw a 20-point swing such that that most Republican voters now believe college is n…

You are 100% right, I'm sick and tired of these damn Republicans first it was an unnecessary war then it was discriminating against blacks, not to mention the open collusion with foreign powers to get their person in the White House, now they are actually killing people with their stupid illterate anit-vacc stances, enough is enough I say. We need to do something about these dangerous people that subscribe to dangero…

This is either excellent satire or a symptom of going off the deep end.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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It's a strange and very Double-Speak response to frame this as a political attack by the newspaper who found the flaw - and in particular the individual journalist. The idea that a journalist is "attacking" by finding an issue worth bringing up _must_ be cognitive dissonance, right? Otherwise all investigation would be a form of assault? Either someone with an IQ below 80 became governor or this is purely a strategic…

It also has a chilling effect on journalism (and free speech generally). Even the threat of prosecution for a non-crime serves to discourage others from publicly discussing his administration’s errors. This situation is arguably the reason we have the first amendment: so the government can’t bully you into silence and submission when you’ve embarrassed them. When they’ve embarrassed themselves, really.

I hear what you're saying, but since there is such a zero chance this results in the journalist going to prison - I'm not entirely sure it has any effect - honestly if I was trying to become well-known as a journalist, I'd very much want to be in this spotlight - I'd be trying to find another mess up on Missouri's part to become part of this story. It very possibly has the opposite effect (the "Streisand effect").

The only _known_ effect is that this becomes a hot story and we're all outraged one way or the other.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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> Do you expect people to pretend the trend isn't happening in order to comfort you? There are plenty of trends happening on the "other side" which are also veritably nuts, so I don't find this to be a very compelling argument. The ad hominem doesn't help, either.

This is called “whataboutism”.

"Whataboutism" is an informal fallacy that most non-technical folks (as in, not logicians) mis-invoke, like almost all other informal fallacies. My argument is not even remotely whataboutism. In fact, it can be even formulated without addressing the "other side" at all: you're making a category error by going from general (party trends) to particular (individual voters).

It's simply a bad argument. I only brought up the "other side" to help analogize it, my apologies if it confused things.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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This kind of rhetoric really doesn't belong on HN.

Absolutely, we do not need politics seeping into every single thread everywhere. Readers: HN is not the time or place for this.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Please don't make this a partisan issue. I live in Missouri. I've voted for Republicans in the past. You're alienating people like me from being on your side. It doesn't matter that you're probably right. It comes across as you posting this to make yourself feel good, and holy moly the sense of superiority from your camp needs a chill pill. Parson is evil. I'll be doing my duty as a citizen and trying to vote him out…

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> Can you find an example of dems attacking science/education/free-press in the manner the Republicans have over the last 10+ years

The snowden leaks where in 2013 and the democratic administration and politicians definitely where not supportive of free press in that case. They were actively hostile against both domestic and foreign press.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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> people who don't believe facts Much of it likely comes down to (a) misinformation coming from news sources they trust, (b) lack of trust in institutions (perhaps for good reason), and perhaps most importantly (c) prioritizing moral values differently than you do. I suspect (c) is at the root of much of the R-D split, with (a) and (b) being symptoms of it. Many Republicans and Democrats have non-negotiable moral val…

I wouldn't call them moral values, because the values expressed are so context-dependent.

Exactly. See, for example, the separate body-autonomy stances of abortions and vaccinations.
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