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Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by IE6 » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:59 PM UTC

seneca wrote: post #259

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This kind of rhetoric really doesn't belong on HN.

I have strong opinions on this topic but I 100% agree.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by tshaddox » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 6:00 PM UTC

Someone1234 wrote: post #206

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There are already requirements for most elected officials. Age, citizenship, and residency requirements are common. Thus the slippery slope argument "if we have any requirements at all that's a slippery slope to having arbitrarily bad requirements" already applies equally to the current situation as it would to any proposal to change the requirements.

> Thus the slippery slope argument That wasn't an argument I made though. I asked: > Who gets to set the test? Which gets to the core of the point. The current requirements are fixed in legal stone and nobody gets to alter them. They aren't being [ab]used for political advantage. People on here are proposing arbitrary ability tests that [someone] gets to create and alter using [some] undefined methodology. You combin…

I don't really understand your argument. All laws are set in stone and unalterable, except by the legislature of course. A proposal to change the requirements for an elected office would require the same process as any other legislative change. In the case of the governor of Missouri, this would require amending the Missouri Constitution. I don't think anyone is proposing that some random Hacker News commenter gets to create and alter a test whenever and however they want.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by totalfaggot » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 6:00 PM UTC

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Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by aaroninsf » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 6:00 PM UTC

sillysaurusx wrote: post #99

abvdasker wrote: post #47

I'll risk making this a partisan issue and say the anti-intellectual and anti-science bent seems increasingly prevalent among Republicans like Mike Parson and their constituencies. One of the most shocking statistics I've seen recently is the Pew poll which shows that in the space of 2 years Republican attitudes about higher education saw a 20-point swing such that that most Republican voters now believe college is n…

Please don't make this a partisan issue. I live in Missouri. I've voted for Republicans in the past. You're alienating people like me from being on your side. It doesn't matter that you're probably right. It comes across as you posting this to make yourself feel good, and holy moly the sense of superiority from your camp needs a chill pill. Parson is evil. I'll be doing my duty as a citizen and trying to vote him out…

"It doesn't matter that you're probably right."

You're the problem.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by totalfaggot » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 6:00 PM UTC

abvdasker wrote: post #47

I'll risk making this a partisan issue and say the anti-intellectual and anti-science bent seems increasingly prevalent among Republicans like Mike Parson and their constituencies. One of the most shocking statistics I've seen recently is the Pew poll which shows that in the space of 2 years Republican attitudes about higher education saw a 20-point swing such that that most Republican voters now believe college is n…

FAGGOT!

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by unsui » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 6:00 PM UTC

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This divisive rhetoric is what got us here in the first place; a breakdown in civil communication. The blue team mimics the red team in this respect. I wish we could have a more mature dialogue but I wonder if we're past that. Violent communication is normalizing.

> This divisive rhetoric is what got us here in the first place

What you're doing is called "pearl clutching", and is not adding in any constructive way to the conversation.

The way we got here is intentionally by using divisive rhetoric to ellicit "engagement". Traditionally, this has been used politically by identifying wedge issues with the explicit intention to divide people along belief borders.

This has been accelerated and amplified n-fold via social media. Engagement is a proxy for divisive rhetoric, as that is what algorithmically produces the most engagement, thereby triggering the reward function(s).

The cat's out of the bag. Its too late to go back and say "but what about the kids?" etc, (especially since there is so much overwhelming evidence that these themselves are simply rhetorical devices to push a particular argumnent or point of view).

We know these arguments are not in good faith, so why should we give them that due process and respect?

Cut the BS.

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Post by vageli » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 6:01 PM UTC

ArchOversight wrote: post #283

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One important fact you might consider is that not all Republicans are the same. ...and that the worst actors held up by the media are not even representative of the average. ...and that moreover, you might consider you are intentionally fed biased information to help reinforce your political stances and hyper-emotional content, because emotional voters are more loyal than thinking voters. Think for yourself. Recogniz…

Too little too late for that. Invoking Godwins law, cause it seems apropos: "As we say in Germany, if there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis"

> Too little too late for that.

> Invoking Godwins law, cause it seems apropos:

> "As we say in Germany, if there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis"

Is this in jest? Or are you truly suggesting that even conversing with someone who holds an opinion that differs from yours somehow makes you of the same opinion?

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by totalfaggot » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 6:01 PM UTC

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Post by torstenvl » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 6:01 PM UTC

danbmil99 wrote: post #221

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>On one side are the computer scientists and engineers who understand the nature of the problem There are a hell of a lot of computer scientists and engineers who vote republican, certainty not a majority but definitely a large enough minority you can't discount them. They just don't broadcast it for reasons that should be obvious to anyone reading these comments.

At this point, voting for Republican candidates means supporting an institution that has given up on Democratic norms and is clearly aiming at an authoritarian takeover of the government of the United States. Up until about 5 years ago I would agree that being even-handed on political matters is appropriate. But when one political party has gone completely mad with lust for power and has given up on science and ratio…

If you believe Donald Trump gave up on democratic norms and was "aiming [for] an authoritarian takeover," then surely you must recognize that it was Republicans like Mike Pence, Mitch McConnell, Brad Raffensperger, Stephen Riche, and others who stopped him... right?

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Post by hllooo » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 6:01 PM UTC

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> Do you expect people to pretend the trend isn't happening in order to comfort you? There are plenty of trends happening on the "other side" which are also veritably nuts, so I don't find this to be a very compelling argument. The ad hominem doesn't help, either.

This is called “whataboutism”.

There are two parties and you have to pick one. If the argument is that trends on the republican side are so insane you must vote democrat, it's certainly not whataboutism to argue there are also similarly insane trends on the democratic side... you can disagree but you can't honestly call it whataboutism.