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Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by akudha » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:22 PM UTC

tyingq wrote: post #107

His twitter account is in a funny state now. He got a lot of negative comments back when initially announcing this. Then doubled-down and sent another tweet about how it was more than just "view-source" (it wasn't.) Then, he started tweeting/re-tweeting unrelated stuff to try and bury it, but people kept replying to those and re-raising the issue. I look forward to the ACLU handing him his ass.

I look forward to the ACLU handing him his ass.

Does he care though? It is all about outrage, diverting attention from actual issues, hogging TV time. We are talking about it, Twitter is talking about it... Mission accomplished for him, no?

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by hairofadog » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:22 PM UTC

wayoutthere wrote: post #155

arcticbull wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really enjoyed Colbert's white house correspondents dinner back in 2006. That isn't what you were referring to is it? [1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X93u3anTco

That phrase long pre-dates Colbert.

Does it? I'm pretty sure he coined it.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by rubyist5eva » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:22 PM UTC

charonn0 wrote: post #147

lancemurdock wrote: post #125

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I suppose I fall in the a republican camp so i'll bite. College is too expensive for what it gives. You gain a ton in maturity, soft skill building but unless you're in a STEM major, the material does not prepare you for the real world. Depending on what my kid wants to study, I will not be encouraging college. So much journalism is so insanely biased. I respectfully disagree to anyone who thinks Biden is treated the…

> I respectfully disagree to anyone who thinks Biden is treated the same as Trump was. People respect Biden more than they respect Trump. This isn't Biden's fault, nor the fault of the people.

Journalists are supposed to leave their "respect" for the person they are reporting on at the door. That's the problem.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by tyingq » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:22 PM UTC

Acutulus wrote: post #7

I find the article title kind of curious, given that it states Parson has "doubled down" which suggests that the video the article references is an active effort on Parson's part. It then goes on to state that the video was produced by a PAC Parson created but doesn't give direct input to. Comes off as unnecessarily inflammatory to me I suppose. Having said that, this situation in particular really tests my willingne…

I'd be very surprised that the PAC he helped create is doing something he isn't good with.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by rubyist5eva » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:23 PM UTC

neogodless wrote: post #70

cde-v wrote: post #63

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You're just a lab rat if you take the vaccine before it has had 209,348 years of trials.

9.693 million doses have been administered over about 10 months. If we assume linear administration, that's 4,039,164 human life years of testing.

Not how "long term" studies work, you can't take 9 women and produce a baby in 1 month.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by nitrogen » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:23 PM UTC

wayoutthere wrote: post #128

sillysaurusx wrote: post #99

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Please don't make this a partisan issue. I live in Missouri. I've voted for Republicans in the past. You're alienating people like me from being on your side. It doesn't matter that you're probably right. It comes across as you posting this to make yourself feel good, and holy moly the sense of superiority from your camp needs a chill pill. Parson is evil. I'll be doing my duty as a citizen and trying to vote him out…

You can’t remove his actions from context though. They are only even possible because of a deliberate and calculated campaign to discredit science and knowledge and punish those who have it. They’re banking on people like you just looking to keep the peace at any cost. If you’re not actively working to dismantle the current Republican Party, we cannot be on the same side. I don’t mind alienating you; the masters tool…

I don’t mind alienating you; the masters tools will never dismantle the master’s house.

I've never heard this phrase before, but it equally applies to the situation where one thinks only they can wield a weapon. We can't assume that because we are "right," we have nothing to fear from the people who are "wrong" using our worst tactics against us. This is wrong whether it's one side "lying for Jesus," or the other side "censoring for freedom."

In the context of this thread, rising opposition on one side prompts a higher rise on the other side, in a vicious cycle. As parents are often heard to say, "I don't care who started it, I care who finishes it!"

It's a bit cliche to refer to STTNG for life advice, but a minor plot point of this episode influenced me quite a bit when I was a kid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_Worship_(Star_Trek:_The_N...

All the adults saw a problem, so they kept raising their shields higher and higher, but raising the shields was causing the problem in the first place. It took a kid to notice that the scale of the problem correlated with the scale of the adults' defensiveness. This was, obviously, a metaphor for any human interaction.

It's simply not possible to continually raise your defenses and offenses and end with a win-win, and when it comes to a roughly evenly divided society, win-lose is lose-lose.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by mdp2021 » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:23 PM UTC

sillysaurusx wrote: post #99

abvdasker wrote: post #47

I'll risk making this a partisan issue and say the anti-intellectual and anti-science bent seems increasingly prevalent among Republicans like Mike Parson and their constituencies. One of the most shocking statistics I've seen recently is the Pew poll which shows that in the space of 2 years Republican attitudes about higher education saw a 20-point swing such that that most Republican voters now believe college is n…

Please don't make this a partisan issue. I live in Missouri. I've voted for Republicans in the past. You're alienating people like me from being on your side. It doesn't matter that you're probably right. It comes across as you posting this to make yourself feel good, and holy moly the sense of superiority from your camp needs a chill pill. Parson is evil. I'll be doing my duty as a citizen and trying to vote him out…

Re-read "anti-science" (a - relatively - minor collateral) with simply "bestial": refusing the value of a basic grasp of the world, and its function as a limiter. ("Bricks are not edible but that is not a valid reason to avoid eating them, when lower drives call". Very many are embracing the false and the absurd as "legitimate": it is just satanic.)

By the way: «voting [that thing] out» is not enough. That thing having held the office is a very horrible incident, and it must be made very clear to all those who were distracted.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by 3wolf » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:23 PM UTC

Acutulus wrote: post #7

I find the article title kind of curious, given that it states Parson has "doubled down" which suggests that the video the article references is an active effort on Parson's part. It then goes on to state that the video was produced by a PAC Parson created but doesn't give direct input to. Comes off as unnecessarily inflammatory to me I suppose. Having said that, this situation in particular really tests my willingne…

> a PAC Parson created but doesn't give direct input to

That's newspaper-covering-their-ass-speak. No serious person believes there's no coordination, however indirect, between candidates and their PACs.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by arcticbull » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:23 PM UTC

leephillips wrote: post #152

arcticbull wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Please don't make this a partisan issue. I live in Missouri. I've voted for Republicans in the past. You're alienating people like me from being on your side. Every group of humans - indeed, thanks to the central limit theorem, every sufficiently large sampling - is going to be normally distributed and there are going to be folks on either side offset from the mean. However, that doesn't indicate that the mean isn'…

That’s not what the central limit theorem says, and it’s not and cannot be true in practice.

I was taking humans political opinions as the sum of a sum of independent random variables :) still may have been a bit of flourish, I suppose.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by ehsankia » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:24 PM UTC

anovikov wrote: post #62

abvdasker wrote: post #47

I'll risk making this a partisan issue and say the anti-intellectual and anti-science bent seems increasingly prevalent among Republicans like Mike Parson and their constituencies. One of the most shocking statistics I've seen recently is the Pew poll which shows that in the space of 2 years Republican attitudes about higher education saw a 20-point swing such that that most Republican voters now believe college is n…

I consider myself a liberal, and i agree with the point that college is net detrimental to society. It makes people waste their best years, teaches them mainly, useless stuff, barely breaks even in terms of lifetime earnings, and makes people bitter because they feel they are not valued by society the way they believe they should. This world needs a lot more new plumbers than new liberal arts majors. It is the societ…

Worth noting that Ivy League costing hundreds of thousands is quite different from college too. Also, the major matters heavily. In something like computer science, you may be able to get by fine without a degree, but good luck becoming a doctor or lawyer with an online education.