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Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by smoyer »

I don't see this mentioned anywhere but the HTML page the journalist visited is public so there's no CFAA/DMCA violation there. Once the HTML page (data) is cached by the journalist's browser, they're free to do anything they want with the data. The journalist ran "his hacker tools" against his own computer which is also not a crime.

Like others, I'm sad to see such a technically illiterate response when there should at least be advisors capable of explaining this. I also agree the journalist is unlikely to be convicted but we really don't need to muddy the fairly clear scope of computer crimes per the above laws.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

#72

Post by otterley »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #68
anovikov wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I consider myself a liberal, and i agree with the point that college is net detrimental to society. It makes people waste their best years, teaches them mainly, useless stuff, barely breaks even in terms of lifetime earnings, and makes people bitter because they feel they are not valued by society the way they believe they should. This world needs a lot more new plumbers than new liberal arts majors. It is the societ…

I can find a competent plumber trivially. Hiring white collar jobs are much harder, especially specialized tech work. I think the anti-college popularity ties directly to the incredible cost of it in the USA, not that its necessarily a bad thing.

> I can find a competent plumber trivially.

You must not live in any major U.S. coastal city. Plumbers and other skilled tradespeople are in extremely high demand right now.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by say_it_as_it_is »

Everyone here is doing exactly what this attack on the journalist was designed to do. It is deflecting attention from the incompetent grift machine running the technology systems in Missouri.

If anything, this response demands worldwide attention on the state run systems and contracts paying to build and maintain them. Expect statewide incompetence paid at top dollar to contractors who aren't paid as much as the contract stipulates.

FOIA all the way

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by parineum »

anovikov wrote: post #62
abvdasker wrote: post #47

I'll risk making this a partisan issue and say the anti-intellectual and anti-science bent seems increasingly prevalent among Republicans like Mike Parson and their constituencies. One of the most shocking statistics I've seen recently is the Pew poll which shows that in the space of 2 years Republican attitudes about higher education saw a 20-point swing such that that most Republican voters now believe college is n…

I consider myself a liberal, and i agree with the point that college is net detrimental to society. It makes people waste their best years, teaches them mainly, useless stuff, barely breaks even in terms of lifetime earnings, and makes people bitter because they feel they are not valued by society the way they believe they should. This world needs a lot more new plumbers than new liberal arts majors. It is the societ…

> It is the society's fault that people feel compelled to go to college

That may be true but the amount of assistance available through student loans and grants enables people to actually go. Without that, the people that feel compelled to go still wouldn't because they simply couldn't afford it.

Higher education in this country is a minefield of unintended consequences.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by tantalor »

smoyer wrote: post #71

I don't see this mentioned anywhere but the HTML page the journalist visited is public so there's no CFAA/DMCA violation there. Once the HTML page (data) is cached by the journalist's browser, they're free to do anything they want with the data. The journalist ran "his hacker tools" against his own computer which is also not a crime. Like others, I'm sad to see such a technically illiterate response when there should…

> free to do anything they want

Copyright could apply.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by softwaredoug »

I presume (and hope) given the high profile of the case the reporter will have some pretty heavyweight legal representation. While being involved in a lengthy, politically charged legal proceeding sucks, I don’t see how that ends well for the governor?

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by icelancer »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #68
anovikov wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I consider myself a liberal, and i agree with the point that college is net detrimental to society. It makes people waste their best years, teaches them mainly, useless stuff, barely breaks even in terms of lifetime earnings, and makes people bitter because they feel they are not valued by society the way they believe they should. This world needs a lot more new plumbers than new liberal arts majors. It is the societ…

I can find a competent plumber trivially. Hiring white collar jobs are much harder, especially specialized tech work. I think the anti-college popularity ties directly to the incredible cost of it in the USA, not that its necessarily a bad thing.

>> I can find a competent plumber trivially. Hiring white collar jobs are much harder, especially specialized tech work.

This is broadly not true in most US cities. Skilled tradespeople who are insured, licensed, and bonded have major backlogs of work - especially electricians, but also plumbers, carpenters, etc.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by say_it_as_it_is »

abvdasker wrote: post #47

I'll risk making this a partisan issue and say the anti-intellectual and anti-science bent seems increasingly prevalent among Republicans like Mike Parson and their constituencies. One of the most shocking statistics I've seen recently is the Pew poll which shows that in the space of 2 years Republican attitudes about higher education saw a 20-point swing such that that most Republican voters now believe college is n…

The problem is that they're using science to protect themselves while speaking out against it.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by Domenic_S »

otterley wrote: post #72
drzaiusapelord wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can find a competent plumber trivially. Hiring white collar jobs are much harder, especially specialized tech work. I think the anti-college popularity ties directly to the incredible cost of it in the USA, not that its necessarily a bad thing.

> I can find a competent plumber trivially. You must not live in any major U.S. coastal city. Plumbers and other skilled tradespeople are in extremely high demand right now.

To say nothing of _competent_ ones. It is a great deal of work to find a tradesperson that is 1) available and 2) competent. Unsurprisingly the most available ones seem to be the least competent.
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