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Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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People often bring up the quip that "as soon as something is AI, people stop calling it AI" but I think pretty much the opposite has happened, the term has been expanded so much that almost any stochastic computation that solves some computational problem is now shoved under that umbrella. However unlike jordan in the article who takes that as an opportunity to focus even more on engineering and practical application…

People in my circles stopped saying AI and switched to ML after it 'did something previously identified as more or less intelligent'. I see this is more or less the norm.

That makes some sense because once we understand how things work they become repeatable and thus not-that-intelligent in the eye of many.

And that, again, makes sense considering we are nowhere near anything that has the 'I' in it: it's pattern matching which is statistics and it works on a massive scale due to tech/gpu and ago advances but there is no 'I' there. The most basic mistakes are not correctable by the most advanced stuff we have and as such, it gets things it is 'bred for' wrong all the time, with sometimes disastrous outcomes.

This stuff should be in labs, not identifying gun shots, faces of criminals, driving cars, identifying 'fraudulent' people and such. Because of the 'I' missing, this is a nightmare and it will get worse.

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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Unrelated to the article but I ran across an interesting result recently that is related to AI (and the hype surrounding it): Let A be an agent and let S be a Turing machine deductive system. If A correctly understands S, then A can correctly deduce that S does not have A’s capability for solving halting problems. [1] One way to interpret this is that all existing AI systems are obviously halting computations simply…

> all existing AI systems are obviously halting computations simply because they are acyclic dataflow graphs

No they aren't. Think about LSTMs for example.

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are lots of creatures that can swim. Most of them swim better than a human. That’s why it’s not very interesting when we discover a new one. In contrast, humans are arguably the only creatures in the universe that can think. Certainly we have never discovered a creature that can think better than a human. Thus it would be highly exciting if we discovered or created one.

The human mind is so flawed I am not sure its a good model to build thinking machines.

no one has a good model of a human mind

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are lots of creatures that can swim. Most of them swim better than a human. That’s why it’s not very interesting when we discover a new one. In contrast, humans are arguably the only creatures in the universe that can think. Certainly we have never discovered a creature that can think better than a human. Thus it would be highly exciting if we discovered or created one.

>In contrast, humans are arguably the only creatures in the universe that can think. Citation very strongly required to back up this statement. I'm not aware of any evidence that this is the case, in fact its quite the opposite.

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Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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What is the marketing team going to do without machine learning, artificial intelligent, blockchain driven cloud based PAAS?

Clearly, quantum blockchain driven cloud based PaaS.

This certainly is the future of Impact-Driven Value as a Service (I-DVaaS).

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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Michael I. Jordan is spot on. We have NO artificial intelligent systems, for any sensible definition of "intelligent". None. ZERO. We have "big data". We have (brittle and rather poor) "pattern recognition". We have (very limited) "simulate a conversation". But we do not even know what "intelligence" really means! We (the industry) should recognise "AI" as term that has become essentially meaningless. "AI" is now not…

Correct. Apparently my phone has "AI" because it recognises a flower as a flower and applies a colour filter and background blur when I use my camera. This is not AI. By the same extension of logic, any program that recognises input data and performs some form of pre-programmed logic is AI. ie. any computer program?

When young children start recognizing shapes, animals, colors, etc, you don’t consider that a sign of intelligence? What is it a sign of then?
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