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Post by true_religion »

jsjohnst wrote: post #759
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The trade in value for my 6 year old MacBook Air is 150 dollars. Old computers depreciate so fast, that you can afford to buy ten of them for the price of one new computer.

Trade-in value on electronics is way lower than resale value. I’ve sold a couple 2014/2015 MacBook Pros this year for $700+ and probably could’ve gotten more had I held out.

Was that via ebay? I really want to sell my devices. Since work-from-home became a norm, I'm struggling to find actual reasons to use a laptop.

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

knodi123 wrote: post #545
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Pro only supports 2 external displays which is why I ordered max

ha, man, some people have veeeery different workstation setups than me. I was offered a large external monitor by my employer, but I turned it down because I didn't want to get used to it, and working in different locations is too critical to my workflow. But I'd love to see how people with more than 2 external displays are actually using them enough to justify the space and cost (not being facetious, I really would)…

"I'd love to see how people with more than 2 external displays are actually using them enough to justify the space and cost (not being facetious, I really would)."

My friend uses 5 monitors, and I would too if I wasn't mandated to use an iJoke computer at work.

Teams, browser and IDE mandate a minimum of 3 displays.

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Post by sudosysgen »

Closi wrote: post #769
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Well, those are rumors assuming a chiplet architecture, which Apple has never tried before and would require very significant modifications to the layout. Simply quadrupling the die isn't really feasible, the price increases exponentially.

Well analysts have estimated the cost of the M1 at $40 to $50 per chip, so even if they double the size of the chip which quadruples the cost, that would still be completely feasible for the Mac Pro which retails at c$5,000+ Even if the SOC was $500 cost price they would still have plenty of room to pay for everything else and hit the $5k price point. I mean, they could even use separate highly integrated chips to ge…

This wouldn't be doubling the size of the M1, it would be quadrupling the size of the M1 Max, so more like 1500$ for the chip.

What you're talking about at the end is chiplets and it takes a lot of work to get it to operate, just ask AMD.

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

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I finally managed to get nvenc working on handbrake and the stupendous frame rate jump actually had me sit in stunned silence, from 3-15FPS to 120FPS on drone 1080p60 footage was jaw dropping. I know the m1 claims to be fast but I'm transcoding on a GPU that's from like 2015!

Just know that HW encoders on nVidia cards are usually inferior in quality compared to software encoders, altho the speed gain is very nice. I originally bought 2070 with its HW HEVC encoder, and apart from few test runs never used it again, because no matter the quality settings, its just worse (and I was never in a hurry). No idea about HW encoders quality/speed on M1

It's great for things like streaming, and the 3rd series is quite good quality. For best compression and quality, ofcourse software encouder is best

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by true_religion »

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Yes… only half as well as modern laptop. Back on the era of Moore’s law, a new machine would be 32x as fast as a ten year old model. That was a real difference. But in 2021, people still buy laptops 1/2 as slow as other models to do the same work. Heck people go out of their way to buy iPad pros which are half as slow as comparable laptops. Considering that, I think a ten year old machine is pretty competitive as an…

> iPad pros which are half as slow as comparable laptops. Uh, what? iPads are using comparable CPUs to the M1 (some even use the M1) and are some of the fastest CPUs for rendering JavaScript on the planet. I think you’re right that people buy slow laptops. But I think that often comes from a place of technical illiteracy and willingness to spend. Put simply: they can’t often comprehend the true value of a faster syst…

IPad Pro 2021: 1118 on geekbench[1] priced at @ 2,199.00 fully specced at the 12.9 inch model with keyboard.

Macbook Air 2020: 1733 on geekbench[2]. Priced @ about 1,849.00 fully speced for 13-inch model.

That's what I mean by comparable tablets are more expensive than laptops. You have to pay a lot more because it has a dual form factor (like the Microsoft Surfacebooks).

[1]https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/10527696

[2]https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/10527696

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

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Don't get me wrong: It's impressive and I have huge respect for it. I also bought one. However, it would be surprising if Apple's new 5nm chip didn't beat AMD's older 7nm chip at this point. Apple specifically bought out all of TSMC's 5nm capacity for themselves while AMD was stuck on 7nm (for now). It will be interesting to see how AMD's new 6000 series mobile chips perform. According to rumors they might be launche…

well....M1 Max single core also beating a 5950x But tbh, it doesn't seem the new hotness in chips is single core CPU, it's about how fancy you spend the die space in custom processors, in which case the M1 will always be tailored to Apple (and presumably Mac users') specific use-cases...

Geekbench.com says m1 max 1700, 5950x 2200

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

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I thought native M1 Linux was still a work in progress ( disclaimer : I’m not a Linux geek). Even if it’s out there, I suspect it’s not optimized. I think standard distros are running on Rosetta2, which is an (excellent, from all reports) X86 emulator.

linux is actually ported to the M1 at this point and you can run it normally (although of course there are likely still some bugs lurking), however the graphics drivers are still a work in progress although coming along very quickly. https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/06/asahi_linux_m1_progre... I'm sure you're right that there are still optimizations to be done, but as you can see from Alyssa's tweet there, it is s…

So, for the most part, the lions’ share of distros still run emulated.

In that case, running “only slightly faster” seems like win.

I’m sure we’ll be fully native, soon enough. We’ve had native ARM Linux for years (Android). Should be fun.

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Post by ryneandal »

knodi123 wrote: post #545
alexcnwy wrote: post #403

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Pro only supports 2 external displays which is why I ordered max

ha, man, some people have veeeery different workstation setups than me. I was offered a large external monitor by my employer, but I turned it down because I didn't want to get used to it, and working in different locations is too critical to my workflow. But I'd love to see how people with more than 2 external displays are actually using them enough to justify the space and cost (not being facetious, I really would)…

Three displays here.

First - dedicated to personal Chrome profile, Discord, etc.

Second - dedicated to screen share - VS Code, terminal, JIRA, etc.

Third - Work Chrome Profile for email/JIRA/web browsing, note-taking (shoutout to https://obsidian.md), Slack.

I could certainly get by with fewer monitors, and do so when I am mobile, but I really enjoy the screen real estate when at my desk at home.

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Post by pkilgore »

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> non-compatible software (Docker, Sublimetext) What was the issue with Sublime? I use it on an M1 every day without issue.

I don't remember exactly, but I couldn't use it. Keep in mind this was in Jan/Feb 2021, so I'd expect software compatibility with the new chip to have improved dramatically.

Docker is now faster than on my work Intel MBP, fwiw. If was pretty bad in winter 21 though.

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

lanza wrote: post #558
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> I just can't figure out what I'm missing on the "M1 is so fast" side of things. Two reasons: 1. M1 is a super fast laptop chip. It provides mid-range desktop performance in a laptop form factor with mostly fanless operation. No matter how you look at it, that's impressive. 2. Apple really dragged their feet on updating the old Intel Macs before the transition. People in the Mac world (excluding hackintosh) were stu…

You're missing out on the fact that Apple didn't release a 12980hk or 5980hx competitor. These are 30 watt chips that trounce the competition's 65 watt (e.g. the 12980hk and 5980hx) and beyond chips. Hell, this Geekbench is faster than a desktop 125 watt 11900k. It's faster than a desktop 105 watt 5800x. Apple intentionally played to the competition here. They know AMD/Intel reach some performance level X and release…

I have an amd laptop and wife has an M1. Mine has twice RAM, twice SSD, more ports, is 10% lighter and 20% cheaper.
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