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Re: Android 12

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Anyone else just stopped keeping track of what version of Android their phone is on? I used to know this stuff, but these days couldn't care less.

This happens a lot with established systems. I also don't know which Linux kernel versions I'm using. Was relevant once, now most changes don't impact me anymore. They are quite specialized. ...

An exception is Windows updates, which tend to break stuff, reset preferences, and introduce user hostile changes.

Re: Android 12

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post #36

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This is a serious problem that Google has not worked nearly hard enough. Sure, you can buy a Pixel if you want no bloatware and updates on the release day. But not having that for most OEMs is, among other things, a security problem.

Its not google's fault that manufacturers are greedy for user data and basically nobody releases Android One phones, the option is there. They could if they wanted, but even ie Xiaomi stopped releasing their phones with it. And their normal products are crapfest of highest calibre from OS level (at least my Mi 9 is).

> Its not google's fault that manufacturers are greedy for user data and basically nobody releases Android One phones, the option is there

Google could just enforce it, like they enforce so many things, by tying it to the Play Services license. If Google wanted to prevent manufacturers from 'customizing` (ruining) their Android phones, they could do so.

Re: Android 12

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post #9

Anyone else just stopped keeping track of what version of Android their phone is on? I used to know this stuff, but these days couldn't care less.

Early on version updates were significant. Big, important changes adding nice features and noticeably improving the user experience (I remember one Android update where they put a lot of focus on improving the UI responsiveness for example).

Mobile OSes are mature these days, there aren't as many (or any) opportunities for sweeping changes that improve the experience. These days I almost dread Android updates because I don't know what they're going to change for no reason that breaks my user flow.

Re: Android 12

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post #9

Anyone else just stopped keeping track of what version of Android their phone is on? I used to know this stuff, but these days couldn't care less.

It's nice for Google to announce the new version, but it's up to the carrier to decide if I can have it, I guess. And when.

Re: Android 12

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post #121

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This happens a lot with established systems. I also don't know which Linux kernel versions I'm using. Was relevant once, now most changes don't impact me anymore. They are quite specialized. ...

An exception is Windows updates, which tend to break stuff, reset preferences, and introduce user hostile changes.

So are Android updates. It's like they have the same teacher.

Re: Android 12

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post #82

Last time I used android it was version 4.1 boasting how it improved responsiveness of the system. Here we are with Android 12 still trying to improve responsiveness and smoothness of the system...

Open developer settings and change the three "animation scale" settings to 0.5x. Modern phones rarely have responsiveness issues outside gratuitous animations.

I can confirm it improuves things. But sometimes is prone to race conditions.

Re: Android 12

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post #34

Still no full system backup like iOS

What kind of stuff does iOS back up that Android doesn't? On Android, all of my photos are backed up to Google Photos. Most games use Google Play's cloud save system. All of my notes are in Google Keep or Google Docs (or Notion) which all are backed up in the cloud. Whenever you switch phones, you can easily select a list of all the apps you want to install and _most_ of them have data backed up automatically. I thin…

Backup on iOS is comparable to full-disk backups on desktop computers whereas Android "backups" just reinstall previous apps and contacts.

Re: Android 12

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post #12

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For real. For me smartphones are just good enough. They all take nice pictures, they're all fast enough, they all have a nice screen, nice touch controls and nice UI. It just doesn't matter as much anymore. The only thing on here that made me go "oh cool" is the extra dim mode, my 4a really likes scorching my retinas at night.

How are you doing in terms of security patches? On a Nokia 5.3 in the Android One certified program, and it's still on the May 2021 security patch. Go figure.

Well, given I have a pixel, I'm pretty good on patches.

I wish google patched their devices for longer, I'd happilly only update every 5-6 years these days, but security doesn't allow for it.

Re: Android 12

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post #91

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How about more tweets? The information density on modern everything is utter garbage.

I doubt anyone here wants more tweets. I personally wish the twitter UI would just be entirely whitespace (or a fine chirping blue if they're feeling adventerous) for their audience to sit and enjoy; I can genuinely find no drawbacks to such a UI rework.

You're not wrong. I guess I'm more annoyed by how widespread it has become to waste whitespace. The new Reddit design is unusable for me because of how much space it wastes. I try it sometimes for a few days, then go back to the old design and feel so much happier to be able to see so much at once without distractions.

Re: Android 12

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post #37
post #20

Looks like grandparent mode is enabled by default with all the whitespace and even lower information density. What's the endgame? In 20 years only a single letter at a time on the screen? >Any information processed in Private Compute Core requires explicit user action before it can be shared with Google (...) If they know everything about the data going in and coming out it's still useless. Also what important APIs d…

As someone who grew up using 160x160 and 320x320 PDAs, the idea a smartphone now uses a 1080x1200 rectangle to only give me eight buttons makes me want to throw up.

Those PDAs generally used styluses, similarly sized screens (or at least about half the size of current phones, 4-5", so a very different DPI) and it was considered okay to make interface elements so small that you could not walk and reliably hit them at the same time.

By your logic we should be able to use a PDA interface on a smartwatch.

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