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Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

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Re: Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

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steerable dirigible, like the goodyear blimp, with suspended cable and basket?

If the heat is intense enough to damage helicopter blades, I question how well a big bag of gas is going to cope.

The gas will be fine, it'll not be flammable. German airships like Hindenburg used hydrogen because helium (that it was originally intended to use) was relatively rare and there was an export ban from the US (who were producing and holding the majority of what was available). Modern devices won't use flammable gasses.

The problem will be the heat for a different reason: changing the dynamics between the gas in the device and the atmosphere inside making buoyancy much more difficult to maintain. Also, the engines used to move them around might be susceptible to the same concerns as helicopter engines & blades.

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The Yves Rossy jet-powered wingsuits seem to be always air launched, i.e. they get airborne out of another aircraft. There is no ground launch. You might be thinking this kind of "jet pack" contraption: https://gravity.co/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-54331994 https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/sep/29/jet-suit-par... And I'm not saying that those are "safe" exactly, but flying them at low altitude over…

> but flying them at low altitude over hot lava would be a whole new risk Also in every demonstration I've seen those things have been LOUD . The dogs are likely to not get on with that, so they will bolt, and there is not nearly enough time to try get them acclimatised to it.

That’s not how we’d use it. We’d send the guy on the damn jet pack into where the dogs are. Send the drones in, have the guy man handle the dogs into the net so there is no time wasted. Once the dogs are out, the bastard jet packs out of there lol.

What dreams are made of. I really need a happy outcome to all of this for some reason.

Re: Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

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Dropping more food and waiting for a better conditions for rescue is risky. The volcano is always changing and could suddenly obliterate that part with lava, or poisonous gas, or ashes. They could maybe use a trained dog in a cage as bait, but could be seen as animal cruelty. And, well... The new Spanish law of animal cruelty is an incredible mess bordering religious stuff. The government want to force every owner of…

Yes, you could be wrong and you are. It's a law proposal, not a law in any way. I also guess that it's a bit more complicated than that, but I won't make any assumptions before I read it myself instead of what a Spanish TV/newspaper can tell me as they are always super biased. I suggest you to do the same.

A law proposal can became a law so there is a really crazy lawmaker somewhere proposing it.

And after checking it, It seems that is true. The law would force the owner to sterilize all animals that could roam free or if you have animals of bot sexes living together you would be forced to sterilize all pets from one sex at least. They want to forbid to breed any pet unlike you have a permit for that. A kid with an aquarium or an insect pet must ask the government a breeding permit if wants to breed a butterfly or a stick insect? Seriously?

It seems that the robotic dogs will have finally a serious chance be adopted in mass and to make money.

Re: Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

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It would crash. A dirigible requires a temperature difference between the ambient (surrounding) air and the air inside the lift bladder. Or the same temperature but different density. The heat of the lava would create an area of lower air density which would result in a significant loss of lift as it crosses. I guess you could compensate with a high altitude crossing, but it still sounds dangerous.

This situation was covered in season 3 of Avatar The Last Airbender, and that is exactly what happened. Such a great show.

It really was. But it's possible the volcanic lake only projected a captured cell of hot air up to the crater rim. Had they flown over the prison and then directly down they might not have crashed. Though they would still be trapped.

If only Zuko had his fire fists or that of his sister Azula at that point it would have been easier.

Man Uncle Iroh is OP with the fire breath technique he teaches Zuko for the "chillers"

Re: Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

#106
Just for the record, the dogs vanished the same day (just hours before) that the drones had planned to act.

It seems that have been rescued by somebody entering the lava crust at night, now chilled to 60 Celsius. They left a message in the pool claiming that the dogs are ok and signing as "the A-team".

Re: Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

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So looks like the dogs have been rescued already by a mysterious group that calls themselves, the A-Team. Human footsteps have appeared in the rooftop where the dogs were and a giant banner was planted saying "Be strong La Palma. The dogs are fine. A-Team". No kidding!

https://english.elpais.com/spain/2021-10-21/mysterious-a-tea...

Re: Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

#108

So looks like the dogs have been rescued already by a mysterious group that calls themselves, the A-Team. Human footsteps have appeared in the rooftop where the dogs were and a giant banner was planted saying "Be strong La Palma. The dogs are fine. A-Team". No kidding! https://english.elpais.com/spain/2021-10-21/mysterious-a-tea...

What the fuck? Lol, c’mon no cute dog pics? So Anonymous saved the dogs? Why is life so weird?

Re: Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

#110

steerable dirigible, like the goodyear blimp, with suspended cable and basket?

What the hell would this accomplish

well, I mean i'm posing the question because I just don't know the limits of the aircraft
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